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Comin'OutSwingin · December 7th, 2006

I had found a place in Wisconsin that does the "Print all over", but I can't find the contact info right now.

The guy told me that their minimums were 144 peices.

When I find the info, I'll post it.

EDIT (by Rodney):

To make things easier to find, I'll be listing the sources we know of in this first post. Please keep in mind that all over and oversized printing is a complicated process, so there be higher minimum orders than regular printing. Please have realistic expectations when contacting these businesses. The smaller the quantity you want to print, the higher your pricing will be per shirt.

Sunburst Apparel - Sunburst Apparel - Home - 1-800-203-5920 -WI - 300 piece minimum

NND Designs - NND Designs, Inc. - 323-587-3200 - CA

4 Season Garment - 4 Season Garment - 323.312.0555 - CA

Clearwater Screen Printing - Clearwater Screen Printing - 416-661-1578 - Ont, Canada

Pacific Splash - Pacific Splash - 323-726-9900 - Los Angeles, CA

Spreading Ink - Spreading Ink - Temecula, CA. 866-369-1465, 951-506-9697 - 144 piece minimum

Unik Ink - Unik Ink - Madison, MS - 1-888-787-4478 - 100 piece minimum

Pony Xpress Printing - Pony Xpress Printing - Dallas, TX - 1-877-239-3277

Madison Avenue Studios - Madison Avenue Studios - Montreal, Canada (514)-383-8720

ZOO-INK - ZOO-INK - San Francisco, CA - 415-821-6300 - no minimums (please be prepared to pay much higher prices for one off proofs and low quantities)

Comin'OutSwingin · December 7th, 2006

Found it...

http://www.sunburstapparel.com/index...&id=4&Itemid=5

Rodney · December 7th, 2006

Ahh, they have a belt printer. Those are hard to find. I found one company in Oregon by contacting the people that make the M&R Predator.

edit: I just called the company in Oregon that I found and they are still testing the machine and should be ready for production in a couple of months.

Rodney · December 7th, 2006

Since this is one of the most frequently asked questions here at the forums, I decided to give the "all-over" printing source it's own separate topic (even though we usually don't handle screen printing recommendation posts that might encourage self promotion, this is worthy of an exception to the rule since it's been pretty difficult to find a screen printer with the right machines as witnessed by the many existing topics asking about it)

If anybody else comes across a printer that has a belt printer or other machine capable of doing the all-over prints, you are welcome to post it here Any questions, please let me know.

Jblack™ · December 21st, 2006

I need a belt printer. I have so many ideas for partial All-Over its not even funny.

Rodney · December 21st, 2006

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	I need a belt printer. I have so many ideas for partial All-Over its not even funny.

Just outsource it to the company above, they can do it

T-BOT · December 21st, 2006

quick question, still lost with this all-over-printing lingo a bit.

is this girly lycra top considered "all-over-printing" according to the lingo ?

Jasonda · December 21st, 2006

That top looks like it was printed before being sewn. The printed design ends at the arm seams and the side seams.

T-BOT · December 21st, 2006

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Originally Posted by Jasonda


	That top looks like it was printed before being sewn. The printed design ends at the arm seams and the side seams.

thanks for having a look.

i guess the term means being printed after the shirt is made.

Is this one the same thing ? hard to see but looks like portions were printed after...I may be wrong here.

is there another name for this type of printing ?

Rodney · December 21st, 2006

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	is this girly lycra top considered "all-over-printing" according to the lingo ?

I think people mean different things when they say all over printing. To some, your pic would be an all-over print, to others, it might just be an oversized print.

You can see all-over prints with the belt printer on the website linked above:
http://www.sunburstapparel.com/index...emid=6&catid=3
http://www.sunburstapparel.com/index...id=8&Itemid=14

T-BOT · December 21st, 2006

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Originally Posted by Rodney


	I think people mean different things when they say all over printing. To some, your pic would be an all-over print, to others, it might just be an oversized print.

Thanks Rodney, have a look at the last pic, you can see along the bottom hem that some of it was printed after it was made i think. So that would be belt type printing ?

dont worrie about it. It may have also been printed before now that i looked at it again.

Comin'OutSwingin · December 21st, 2006

Actually the hem at the bottom would suggest that it was printed before it was made.

You can see the bottom of the back hem of the shirt is printed on the inside. It looks as though the shirt was printed, then sewn (with hem).

RichardGreaves · December 21st, 2006

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Originally Posted by T-BOT


	you can see along the bottom hem that some of it was printed after it was made i think. So that would be belt type printing ?

Some companies take finished shirts and print over the edges and seams.

Some companies print cut pieces before they are sewn and print over the edge. At the Sunburst Apparel you can see two men loading a finished shirt and another picture of the finished shirt with an all over print.

Some companies print an overall pattern on roll fabric and cut to a pattern and then sew them.

The belt must be sticky like a regular platen. It is harder to print on finished shirts because there are two layers and the top wants to pick up. If you use an ink that doesn't have much adhesion, it can work.

A typical belt printer uses water based ink so the adhesive and extra ink can be scrubbed as the belt circles around the bottom and more adhesive is applied.

You can print over sized prints with an oversized platen on a common press. You may not be able to put a platen on each arm because they are much wider, so a 4 platen press could only hold 2 oversized platens.

There is a video of the M&R Predator belt printer, printing on roll fabric at:
http://www.mrprint.com/uploaded/wmv/Predator%20LPC2.wmv

T-BOT · December 21st, 2006

wow! thanks for the info on all types on one post.

Diving my kid to Karate now but I'll be back to check out your resource.

Fluid · December 21st, 2006

There are some good articles on the Articles & Tips page of www.mrprint.com as well.

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