just giving us more fuel to the fire that your whole fucking country should be banned. you are nothing more than ewoks with pirated copies of photoshop and no design skills. if we are a community can't name more than two solid designers from there i say the country just gets banned altogether. 2009-11-06T07:29:48-05:00 107 2009-11-05T19:35:13-05:00 true 0 95941 true false 14 14 1 2010-02-09T10:52:04-05:00 7745 agree! 95941 Post 2009-11-05T19:36:00-05:00 3135441 664 2009-11-05T19:36:00-05:00 CLAP FUCKING CLAP! at least someone has the guts to say what we're all thinking! 95941 Post 2009-11-05T19:36:03-05:00 3135451 13356 2009-11-05T19:36:03-05:00 i'm out to go get some ice cream, someone hold down the fort. just recommended to matt that SWH needs to be a moderator. 95941 Post 2009-11-05T19:37:19-05:00 3135481 14 2009-11-05T19:37:19-05:00 Tell it like it is, sick of this garbage. 95941 Post 2009-11-05T19:37:32-05:00 3135491 35651 2009-11-05T19:37:32-05:00 yeah. ban em. 95941 Post 2009-11-05T19:37:50-05:00 3135511 12090 2009-11-05T19:37:50-05:00 The man has spoken. <img src="http://www.colectiva.tv/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/lkzyz89efm_clap.gif" /> <blockquote><cite>nonearegood said:</cite> PS Mods cant do shit this is so easy to troll, I just make new accounts</blockquote> You, sir, are too much of a pussy to talk shit like this with your real account. 95941 Post 2009-11-05T19:37:52-05:00 3135531 25661 2009-11-05T19:39:22-05:00 Go for it! 95941 Post 2009-11-05T19:38:06-05:00 3135541 8285 2009-11-05T19:38:06-05:00 <img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3206/2375254148_3201d51045_o.gif"> 95941 Post 2009-11-05T19:38:43-05:00 3135581 7515 2009-11-05T19:38:43-05:00 <blockquote><cite>nonearegood said:</cite> PS Mods cant do shit this is so easy to troll, I just make new accounts</blockquote> Congrats, now grow the fuck up and go do something productive. 95941 Post 2009-11-05T19:38:53-05:00 3135591 35651 2009-11-05T19:38:53-05:00 you have to ban the IP of the people making the fake accounts. 95941 Post 2009-11-05T19:39:20-05:00 3135601 44251 2009-11-05T19:39:20-05:00 <blockquote><cite>Sam Montana said:</cite> The man has spoken. <img src="http://www.colectiva.tv/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/lkzyz89efm_clap.gif" /> <blockquote><cite>nonearegood said:</cite> PS Mods cant do shit this is so easy to troll, I just make new accounts</blockquote> You, sir, are too much of a pussy to talk shit like this with your real account.</blockquote> 95941 Post 2009-11-05T19:40:00-05:00 3135611 28121 2009-11-05T19:40:00-05:00 <blockquote><cite>dobi said:</cite> i'm out to go get some ice cream, someone hold down the fort. just recommended to matt that SWH needs to be a moderator.</blockquote> word, i guess im on troll patrol till then 95941 Post 2009-11-05T19:40:05-05:00 3135621 1146 2009-11-05T19:40:05-05:00 Also, Dobi, please don't curse. I'm very sensitive to what I read and can't handle that kind of negative output in my optical nerves. 95941 Post 2009-11-05T19:46:03-05:00 3135731 44251 2009-11-05T19:46:03-05:00 I'm on here pretty much all the time too... Just sayin. 95941 Post 2009-11-05T20:01:21-05:00 3136001 1498 2009-11-05T20:01:21-05:00 I'm fine with this. I'm also curious as to what was the last straw to reach this point. 95941 Post 2009-11-05T20:01:58-05:00 3136011 9179 2009-11-05T20:01:58-05:00 <blockquote><cite>againstbound said:</cite> I'm also curious as to what was the last straw to reach this point.</blockquote> 95941 Post 2009-11-05T20:14:12-05:00 3136181 12198 2009-11-05T20:14:12-05:00 strong hate in here 95941 Post 2009-11-05T20:14:29-05:00 3136201 7920 2009-11-05T20:14:29-05:00 well spoken 95941 Post 2009-11-05T20:17:07-05:00 3136211 45851 2009-11-05T20:17:07-05:00 <blockquote><cite>thrash nasty said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>againstbound said:</cite> I'm also curious as to what was the last straw to reach this point.</blockquote></blockquote> You both missed it? Lucky bastards. 95941 Post 2009-11-05T20:17:08-05:00 3136221 6884 2009-11-05T20:17:08-05:00 yeah I was working/ at class all day today. if it's not too much trouble what happened? 95941 Post 2009-11-05T20:20:17-05:00 3136261 12198 2009-11-05T20:20:17-05:00 If these guys rip like they do now...holy hell, wait till Velda Draw is released! 95941 Post 2009-11-05T20:20:23-05:00 3136271 1698 2009-11-05T20:20:23-05:00 <blockquote><cite>thrash nasty said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>againstbound said:</cite> I'm also curious as to what was the last straw to reach this point.</blockquote></blockquote> 95941 Post 2009-11-05T20:22:29-05:00 3136311 10311 2009-11-05T20:22:29-05:00 <blockquote><cite>thrash nasty said:</cite> yeah I was working/ at class all day today. if it's not too much trouble what happened?</blockquote> I <i><b> think </b></i> it revolved around a horrendously nsfw gif being posted dozens of times in single comments in different threads. FYI, the gif involved man love. And as Tom Neal found out (he posted a screenshot compilation) it was some indonesians on another website calling for people to spam this site/a specific thread. 95941 Post 2009-11-05T20:23:22-05:00 3136341 6884 2009-11-05T20:25:09-05:00 <blockquote><cite>Matt Willmott said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>thrash nasty said:</cite> yeah I was working/ at class all day today. if it's not too much trouble what happened?</blockquote> I <i><b> think </b></i> it revolved around a horrendously nsfw gif being posted dozens of times in single comments in different threads. FYI, the gif involved man love.</blockquote> And a ton of spam threads. (which included said GIF) Typical lame-ass troll stuff. 95941 Post 2009-11-05T20:24:33-05:00 3136351 8948 2009-11-05T20:25:30-05:00 <blockquote><cite>8-bit ZOMBIE said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>Matt Willmott said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>thrash nasty said:</cite> yeah I was working/ at class all day today. if it's not too much trouble what happened?</blockquote> I <i><b> think </b></i> it revolved around a horrendously nsfw gif being posted dozens of times in single comments in different threads. FYI, the gif involved man love.</blockquote> And a ton of spam threads. (which included said GIF)</blockquote> oh shit. thats pretty fucked up. who does that? by the way thanks for explaining. 95941 Post 2009-11-05T20:27:07-05:00 3136381 12198 2009-11-05T20:27:22-05:00 I'm sold, fuck the fuckers. 95941 Post 2009-11-05T20:27:28-05:00 3136401 9179 2009-11-05T20:27:28-05:00 cosigned 95941 Post 2009-11-05T20:28:04-05:00 3136411 67 2009-11-05T20:28:04-05:00 Less talky more banny. And as for this... <blockquote><cite>dobi said:</cite> just recommended to matt that SWH needs to be a moderator.</blockquote> ...FML. What ever happened to polite and soft-spoken mods? This shit's gonna turn into martial law. 95941 Post 2009-11-05T20:29:34-05:00 3136431 12325 2009-11-05T20:29:34-05:00 just because you're a mod doesn't mean you have to be a wuss 95941 Post 2009-11-05T20:30:17-05:00 3136461 67 2009-11-05T20:30:17-05:00 <img src="http://i440.photobucket.com/albums/qq125/benjaminlande/ta.jpg" /> 95941 Post 2009-11-05T20:34:08-05:00 3136541 1368 2009-11-05T20:34:08-05:00 <blockquote><cite>againstbound said:</cite> I'm sold, fuck the fuckers.</blockquote> Dont you mean Fuck the fucking fuckers? ;) 95941 Post 2009-11-05T20:35:05-05:00 3136561 8285 2009-11-05T20:35:05-05:00 <blockquote><cite>ibzombieliquorice said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>againstbound said:</cite> I'm sold, fuck the fuckers.</blockquote> Dont you mean Fuck the fucking fuckers? ;)</blockquote> once, at my old job, a co-worker was angry at a broken machine and actually used the words "the fucking fuckers fucking fucked" oustanding. 95941 Post 2009-11-05T20:37:29-05:00 3136621 11020 2009-11-05T20:37:29-05:00 This site has given me a hatred for Indonesia as a country. I could never do anything anymore that involves the place altogether. 95941 Post 2009-11-05T21:03:18-05:00 3136971 7945 2009-11-05T21:03:18-05:00 please dont,i just can live from emptees :( 95941 Post 2009-11-05T21:12:06-05:00 3137071 11723 2009-11-05T21:12:06-05:00 IP ban the whole country. 95941 Post 2009-11-05T21:16:47-05:00 3137101 11176 2009-11-05T21:16:47-05:00 I say if possible, you make it so indonesians have to "apply" for membership here. They have to be approved by moderators with links to their portfolios or something. 95941 Post 2009-11-05T21:19:19-05:00 3137171 7945 2009-11-05T21:19:19-05:00 <blockquote><cite>Travis Cook said:</cite> I say if possible, you make it so indonesians have to "apply" for membership here. They have to be approved by moderators with links to their portfolios or something.</blockquote> i vote this too!(if at all possible) 95941 Post 2009-11-05T21:20:45-05:00 3137191 11020 2009-11-05T21:20:45-05:00 bandonesia! 95941 Post 2009-11-05T21:21:20-05:00 3137201 1146 2009-11-05T21:21:20-05:00 indobannedya! 95941 Post 2009-11-05T21:21:54-05:00 3137211 67 2009-11-05T21:21:54-05:00 indo-seeya! 95941 Post 2009-11-05T21:22:58-05:00 3137261 1146 2009-11-05T21:22:58-05:00 indo-wouldntwannabeya! 95941 Post 2009-11-05T21:23:45-05:00 3137271 67 2009-11-05T21:23:45-05:00 Is it fair for Indonesian that really can do design? It has to be wisely to ban other "crappy sh#t" Indonesian. Mod please more concern with those issue. 95941 Post 2009-11-05T21:27:45-05:00 3137321 7176 2009-11-05T21:27:45-05:00 indo-you're all fucked now-esia. <blockquote><cite>Travis Cook said:</cite> I say if possible, you make it so indonesians have to "apply" for membership here. They have to be approved by moderators with links to their portfolios or something.</blockquote> Do it! 95941 Post 2009-11-05T21:27:51-05:00 3137331 25661 2009-11-05T21:27:51-05:00 deal with the wit! so good 95941 Post 2009-11-05T21:30:42-05:00 3137341 782 2009-11-05T21:30:42-05:00 And how about going one step further than bans, and not even allow them to see the site? 95941 Post 2009-11-05T21:42:19-05:00 3137561 7069 2009-11-05T21:42:19-05:00 <blockquote><cite>DrewGliever said:</cite> And how about going one step further than bans, and not even allow them to see the site?</blockquote> I think that's what they're saying. 95941 Post 2009-11-05T21:49:59-05:00 3137701 10311 2009-11-05T21:49:59-05:00 "We're sorry, but because of your own fault, emptees is not available in your country." And link them to deviantart or something then. 95941 Post 2009-11-05T21:51:33-05:00 3137731 25661 2009-11-05T21:51:33-05:00 <blockquote><cite>Sam Montana said:</cite> "We're sorry, but because of your own fault, emptees is not available in your country." And link them to deviantart or something then.</blockquote> Who the fuck are you? 95941 Post 2009-11-05T21:52:43-05:00 3137751 7069 2009-11-05T21:52:43-05:00 <blockquote><cite>DrewGliever said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>Sam Montana said:</cite> "We're sorry, but because of your own fault, emptees is not available in your country." And link them to deviantart or something then.</blockquote> Who the fuck are you?</blockquote> why 95941 Post 2009-11-05T21:55:32-05:00 3137801 7945 2009-11-05T21:55:32-05:00 I think everyone needs to understand the concept of economics. Sure a few people rip off your designs and make money off of it (they could be from anywhere btw, even your next door neighbor). They do this for a while la la la dee dooo, first off they are getting second rate customers, if you are decently known, your customers will be shopping at your store, second they are making next to nothing profit margins, which can't be kept up for too long. Third, BEAT THEM, just make more designs, they won't be able to keep up and will go out of business, especially if they are just copying you. Innovate, don't get mad. 95941 Post 2009-11-05T22:15:41-05:00 3138061 77431 2009-11-05T22:15:41-05:00 <blockquote><cite>mikehagstrom said:</cite> I think everyone needs to understand the concept of economics. Sure a few people rip off your designs and make money off of it (they could be from anywhere btw, even your next door neighbor). They do this for a while la la la dee dooo, first off they are getting second rate customers, if you are decently known, your customers will be shopping at your store, second they are making next to nothing profit margins, which can't be kept up for too long. Third, BEAT THEM, just make more designs, they won't be able to keep up and will go out of business, especially if they are just copying you. Innovate, don't get mad.</blockquote> they're not next door, they are in indonesia 95941 Post 2009-11-05T22:18:39-05:00 3138081 1146 2009-11-05T22:18:39-05:00 <blockquote><cite>DrewGliever said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>Sam Montana said:</cite> "We're sorry, but because of your own fault, emptees is not available in your country." And link them to deviantart or something then.</blockquote> Who the fuck are you?</blockquote> why are you calling him out like that? he had a good idea. dont be a dick to him. 95941 Post 2009-11-05T22:18:59-05:00 3138091 9543 2009-11-05T22:18:59-05:00 <blockquote><cite>ChrisW said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>DrewGliever said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>Sam Montana said:</cite> "We're sorry, but because of your own fault, emptees is not available in your country." And link them to deviantart or something then.</blockquote> Who the fuck are you?</blockquote> why are you calling him out like that? he had a good idea. dont be a dick to him.</blockquote> That dude's a dick to everyone. Ban those fools! 95941 Post 2009-11-05T22:23:52-05:00 3138121 10688 2009-11-05T22:23:52-05:00 <blockquote><cite>EmpireDesigns said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>ChrisW said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>DrewGliever said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>Sam Montana said:</cite> "We're sorry, but because of your own fault, emptees is not available in your country." And link them to deviantart or something then.</blockquote> Who the fuck are you?</blockquote> why are you calling him out like that? he had a good idea. dont be a dick to him.</blockquote> That dude's a dick to everyone. Ban those fools!</blockquote> That's not even close. 95941 Post 2009-11-05T22:24:58-05:00 3138141 7069 2009-11-05T22:24:58-05:00 <blockquote><cite>DrewGliever said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>EmpireDesigns said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>ChrisW said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>DrewGliever said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>Sam Montana said:</cite> "We're sorry, but because of your own fault, emptees is not available in your country." And link them to deviantart or something then.</blockquote> Who the fuck are you?</blockquote> why are you calling him out like that? he had a good idea. dont be a dick to him.</blockquote> That dude's a dick to everyone. Ban those fools!</blockquote> That's not even close.</blockquote> To what? 95941 Post 2009-11-05T22:26:11-05:00 3138161 10688 2009-11-05T22:26:11-05:00 <blockquote><cite>EmpireDesigns said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>DrewGliever said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>EmpireDesigns said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>ChrisW said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>DrewGliever said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>Sam Montana said:</cite> "We're sorry, but because of your own fault, emptees is not available in your country." And link them to deviantart or something then.</blockquote> Who the fuck are you?</blockquote> why are you calling him out like that? he had a good idea. dont be a dick to him.</blockquote> That dude's a dick to everyone. Ban those fools!</blockquote> That's not even close.</blockquote> separate it you two To what?</blockquote> 95941 Post 2009-11-05T22:32:05-05:00 3138191 28121 2009-11-05T22:32:05-05:00 I AM NOT INDONESIAN!! check my flag at my profile..... lol 95941 Post 2009-11-05T22:33:07-05:00 3138201 9047 2009-11-05T22:33:07-05:00 <blockquote><cite>NICOLO NIMOR said:</cite> I AM NOT INDONESIAN!! check my flag at my profile..... lol</blockquote> BAN HIM! <spoiler>jk</spoiler> 95941 Post 2009-11-05T22:34:48-05:00 3138251 9543 2009-11-05T22:34:48-05:00 might be too late in this thread but here goes... this site from day one has been fairly community based no matter how drama filled stuff seems to get. i spend more time on here than anywhere else. i have ditched other internet forums because this place takes up too much time. there are a ton of people on here / connections i never would have made if not for emptees. i know this is the same for the majority of you. there is no secret that piracy is rampant in indonesia, it has happened to the majority of the designers / brands around here. it seems about a year ago the indos caught wind of this place and have just been sucking the life out of everything and bootlegging it as much as humanly possible. language barrier aside, very few give anything back to this community, all they do is take. what we do usually get in return is nonsensical designs which are gore for the sake of gore with no meaning / artistic merit whatsoever. <img src="http://cache0.emptees.com/images/559761/rampanda.jpg" /> ban indonesia. 95941 Post 2009-11-05T22:35:41-05:00 3138271 14 2009-11-05T22:35:41-05:00 case closed. 95941 Post 2009-11-05T22:38:20-05:00 3138331 9543 2009-11-05T22:38:20-05:00 Emptees veterans to the chat! [even you, dobi] 95941 Post 2009-11-05T22:39:05-05:00 3138351 7069 2009-11-05T22:39:32-05:00 That ramp design is PERFECTION. 95941 Post 2009-11-05T22:40:42-05:00 3138371 44251 2009-11-05T22:40:42-05:00 <blockquote><cite>coplet said:</cite> Is it fair for Indonesian that really can do design? It has to be wisely to ban other "crappy sh#t" Indonesian. Mod please more concern with those issue.</blockquote> if the foot has cancer then amputate 95941 Post 2009-11-05T22:53:56-05:00 3138511 4435 2009-11-05T22:53:56-05:00 i jsut murdered emptees chat. 95941 Post 2009-11-05T23:00:55-05:00 3138581 9543 2009-11-05T23:00:55-05:00 Indonesia can suck my shaved balls. what a fucked over country. stay the fuck off emptees. 95941 Post 2009-11-05T23:10:00-05:00 3138731 1096 2009-11-05T23:10:00-05:00 and yes. I don't give a fuck how drunk I am right now. 95941 Post 2009-11-05T23:10:29-05:00 3138741 1096 2009-11-05T23:10:29-05:00 <blockquote><cite>biotwist said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>coplet said:</cite> Is it fair for Indonesian that really can do design? It has to be wisely to ban other "crappy sh#t" Indonesian. Mod please more concern with those issue.</blockquote> if the foot has cancer then amputate</blockquote> which one is more effective, prevent the cancer or let it being a beast cancer?? maybe what's Travis Cook suggest is good,need approval from the moderator by reviewing the online portfolio,thats fair IMO. 95941 Post 2009-11-05T23:11:52-05:00 3138791 7176 2009-11-05T23:11:52-05:00 <blockquote><cite>mynameismartijn said:</cite> Indonesia can suck my shaved balls.</blockquote> how often do you shave them? 95941 Post 2009-11-05T23:12:38-05:00 3138831 9930 2009-11-05T23:12:38-05:00 <blockquote><cite>Michael Partridge said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>mynameismartijn said:</cite> Indonesia can suck my shaved balls.</blockquote> how often do you shave them?</blockquote> once a month or so. anyhow, stay on topic man, bashing Indonesian people > my shaved balls 95941 Post 2009-11-05T23:17:29-05:00 3138861 1096 2009-11-05T23:17:29-05:00 close comments too many borderline racist comments... this is not what this site needs 95941 Post 2009-11-05T23:22:25-05:00 3138921 42681 2009-11-05T23:22:25-05:00 It simply isn't right to categorically put down a large group of people. Ban the people who are clearly ripping, but a wide scale denouncement isn't really what a place like this should be. 95941 Post 2009-11-05T23:23:52-05:00 3138931 44251 2009-11-05T23:23:52-05:00 <blockquote><cite>OvenRude said:</cite> It simply isn't right to categorically put down a large group of people. Ban the people who are clearly ripping, but a wide scale denouncement isn't really what a place like this should be.</blockquote> the problem is that those who aren't posting are also the ones who are flat out stealing shit and reselling it. 95941 Post 2009-11-05T23:29:27-05:00 3138961 14 2009-11-05T23:29:27-05:00 <blockquote><cite>mynameismartijn said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>Michael Partridge said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>mynameismartijn said:</cite> Indonesia can suck my shaved balls.</blockquote> how often do you shave them?</blockquote> once a month or so. anyhow, stay on topic man, bashing Indonesian people > my shaved balls</blockquote> sorry, going for some light relief. on topic, this does sound like a case of the many (rippers) spoiling things for the few (decent indo designers). copyright and intellectual property laws are a big deal to any designer, apart from indo are there any other countries that dont have them? would it be fair to suggest that if a country doesnt have a good grounding with copyright laws then they should be banned to? 95941 Post 2009-11-05T23:52:32-05:00 3139101 9930 2009-11-05T23:52:32-05:00 Ive just been workin and playin borderlands, missed all this stuff. Wow. 95941 Post 2009-11-06T00:10:26-05:00 3139151 8810 2009-11-06T00:10:26-05:00 <blockquote><cite>Johnny D said:</cite> Ive just been workin and playin borderlands, missed all this stuff. Wow.</blockquote> you're lucky, it was hell. i approve of this ban (not that it matters) 95941 Post 2009-11-06T00:26:38-05:00 3139261 51721 2009-11-06T00:26:38-05:00 OMG,... 95941 Post 2009-11-06T00:59:11-05:00 3139361 45201 2009-11-06T00:59:11-05:00 <blockquote><cite>dobi said:</cite> might be too late in this thread but here goes... this site from day one has been fairly community based no matter how drama filled stuff seems to get. i spend more time on here than anywhere else. i have ditched other internet forums because this place takes up too much time. there are a ton of people on here / connections i never would have made if not for emptees. i know this is the same for the majority of you. there is no secret that piracy is rampant in indonesia, it has happened to the majority of the designers / brands around here. it seems about a year ago the indos caught wind of this place and have just been sucking the life out of everything and bootlegging it as much as humanly possible. language barrier aside, very few give anything back to this community, all they do is take. what we do usually get in return is nonsensical designs which are gore for the sake of gore with no meaning / artistic merit whatsoever. <img src="http://cache0.emptees.com/images/559761/rampanda.jpg" /> ban indonesia.</blockquote> i wonder if people will think this is subjective though, because i don't think there is any difference bettween this... <img src="http://cache0.emptees.com/images/559761/rampanda.jpg" /> and this... <img src="http://cache0.emptees.com/images/523501/sample_emptees.jpg" /> i personally think they both completely awful but i understand other people might not feel that way. 95941 Post 2009-11-06T01:10:41-05:00 3139401 1106 2009-11-06T01:10:55-05:00 interesting thread... it sucks that i moved to indonesia last week... 95941 Post 2009-11-06T01:25:08-05:00 3139461 2870 2009-11-06T01:25:08-05:00 I personally, loved the thread title. 95941 Post 2009-11-06T01:29:50-05:00 3139471 33251 2009-11-06T01:29:50-05:00 i agree. 95941 Post 2009-11-06T01:33:40-05:00 3139511 881 2009-11-06T01:33:40-05:00 <blockquote><cite>Travis Cook said:</cite> This site has given me a hatred for Indonesia as a country. I could never do anything anymore that involves the place altogether.</blockquote> So because an amount of people from that country has done messed up things, makes you hate the country as a whole? That's narrowmided and generalising if you ask me. I understand where all the hate is coming from but the comments here are getting close to racial. 95941 Post 2009-11-06T01:43:40-05:00 3139581 46601 2009-11-06T01:43:40-05:00 <blockquote><cite>skull with hair said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>dobi said:</cite> might be too late in this thread but here goes... this site from day one has been fairly community based no matter how drama filled stuff seems to get. i spend more time on here than anywhere else. i have ditched other internet forums because this place takes up too much time. there are a ton of people on here / connections i never would have made if not for emptees. i know this is the same for the majority of you. there is no secret that piracy is rampant in indonesia, it has happened to the majority of the designers / brands around here. it seems about a year ago the indos caught wind of this place and have just been sucking the life out of everything and bootlegging it as much as humanly possible. language barrier aside, very few give anything back to this community, all they do is take. what we do usually get in return is nonsensical designs which are gore for the sake of gore with no meaning / artistic merit whatsoever. <img src="http://cache0.emptees.com/images/559761/rampanda.jpg" /> ban indonesia.</blockquote> i wonder if people will think this is subjective though, because i don't think there is any difference bettween this... <img src="http://cache0.emptees.com/images/559761/rampanda.jpg" /> and this... <img src="http://cache0.emptees.com/images/523501/sample_emptees.jpg" /> i personally think they both completely awful but i understand other people might not feel that way.</blockquote> Hey SWH, i am not trying to be a jerk at all. I am asking this question as someone who wants to learn about design and gain more knowledge so dont think im being sarcastic. What exactly is wrong with the second one? I dont prefer either of them, but i would say the second one is the better of the 2, in my eyes anyway. I think the illustrating in the second one is better than the first for sure but then again i dont illustrate much. But what about it do you not like / disagree with? 95941 Post 2009-11-06T01:44:46-05:00 3139591 65121 2009-11-06T01:44:46-05:00 <blockquote><cite>rawkidrocks said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>Travis Cook said:</cite> This site has given me a hatred for Indonesia as a country. I could never do anything anymore that involves the place altogether.</blockquote> So because an amount of people from that country has done messed up things, makes you hate the country as a whole? That's narrowmided and generalising if you ask me. I understand where all the hate is coming from but the comments here are getting close to racial.</blockquote> i agree. 95941 Post 2009-11-06T01:58:09-05:00 3139761 45201 2009-11-06T01:58:09-05:00 KILL EM ALL!! 95941 Post 2009-11-06T01:59:04-05:00 3139771 881 2009-11-06T01:59:04-05:00 I missed what happened, -Emptees made original art. -Some not all Indonesians stole the art obviously from Emptees -Emptees retaliated with multiple manticoreings, and thus began a hatred for not only the individual rippers but a whole region of the world. -Feeling a sense of national pride, Indonesians defended their country mates. with a counter manticoreing. -Emptees now hates indonesians more then ever? Is that about right. 95941 Post 2009-11-06T02:07:41-05:00 3139811 506 2009-11-06T02:07:41-05:00 @Daniel, to answer your question, quality of work is subjective for a number of reasons. example: if someone were to trace a keaton henson piece you might think it was cool, until you realized that person was just copying someone else, then it's just dumb. i am not saying everything GBI does is a rip, but his/her style is all over the place and he/she has been caught tracing other artists work before. all that aside i personally think the style of illustration is corny and the skills are average at best, but with the knowledge of the rips it just kinda makes it all bleh to me, might as well be a boxing glove panda. i hope that answers your question. 95941 Post 2009-11-06T02:07:49-05:00 3139821 1106 2009-11-06T02:08:34-05:00 <blockquote><cite>skull with hair said:</cite> @Daniel, to answer your question, quality of work is subjective for a number of reasons. example: if someone were to trace a keaton henson piece you might think it was cool, until you realized that person was just copying someone else, then it's just dumb. i am not saying everything GBI does is a rip, but his/her style is all over the place and he/she has been caught tracing other artists work before. all that aside i personally think the style of illustration is corny and the skills are average at best, but with the knowledge of the rips it just kinda makes it all bleh to me, might as well be a boxing glove panda. i hope that answers your question.</blockquote> I gotcha man. Thanks for replying and i completely get what you are saying. :) 95941 Post 2009-11-06T02:16:56-05:00 3139871 65121 2009-11-06T02:16:56-05:00 Does Emptees store IP addresses at registration? Cause if so, you could always make it so that you couldn't see anything without being logged in, and then ban all members from Indonesian IP ranges, and then block the registration page so they can't see it, but instead get something saying if they're really interested to submit their portfolio to some email so they could be manually added to the database or something. Wouldn't really be extremely code intensive, and this way the few Indonesians that are okay artists would still be able to see the site and the rest would be banned. 95941 Post 2009-11-06T02:18:08-05:00 3139891 8092 2009-11-06T02:18:08-05:00 also, then i wouldnt get facebook requests that look like this: <img src="http://hphotos-snc1.fbcdn.net/hs205.snc1/7227_1132779914844_1087672967_30306635_1925374_n.jpg" /> (Oli Sykes face RIP) <img src="http://hphotos-snc1.fbcdn.net/hs149.snc1/5531_1100478107319_1087672967_30230600_8047247_n.jpg" /><img src="http://hphotos-snc1.fbcdn.net/hs225.snc1/7227_1128206920522_1087672967_30297985_4721291_n.jpg" /><img src="http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs104.snc3/15138_1143602225395_1087672967_30331640_3400632_n.jpg" /> 95941 Post 2009-11-06T04:09:30-05:00 3140531 881 2009-11-06T04:09:30-05:00 Bwahaha that fourth one is pure gold, Cole 95941 Post 2009-11-06T04:17:04-05:00 3140541 24821 2009-11-06T04:17:04-05:00 <img src="http://i655.photobucket.com/albums/uu275/TheShadowPuppetClothing/SKELETcrOwN_.jpg" /> and yet oss caroch's shit is TOTD even SWH and dobi can't make like that... ironic <img src="http://www.kaskus.us/images/smilies/sumbangan/q11.gif" /> 95941 Post 2009-11-06T04:52:19-05:00 3140641 58961 2009-11-06T04:52:19-05:00 Wow, Indonesia seems like such a magical land. 95941 Post 2009-11-06T04:54:09-05:00 3140661 9785 2009-11-06T04:54:09-05:00 <blockquote><cite>The Shadow Puppet said:</cite> <img src="http://i655.photobucket.com/albums/uu275/TheShadowPuppetClothing/SKELETcrOwN_.jpg" /> hahah exactly 95941 Post 2009-11-06T05:07:32-05:00 3140701 11807 2009-11-06T05:07:50-05:00 allow me to post this comment before indonesia get banned. heartache. 95941 Post 2009-11-06T05:13:44-05:00 3140731 21291 2009-11-06T05:13:44-05:00 <blockquote><cite>Colemadethis said:</cite> also, then i wouldnt get facebook requests that look like this: <img src="http://hphotos-snc1.fbcdn.net/hs205.snc1/7227_1132779914844_1087672967_30306635_1925374_n.jpg" /> (Oli Sykes face RIP) <img src="http://hphotos-snc1.fbcdn.net/hs149.snc1/5531_1100478107319_1087672967_30230600_8047247_n.jpg" /><img src="http://hphotos-snc1.fbcdn.net/hs225.snc1/7227_1128206920522_1087672967_30297985_4721291_n.jpg" /><img src="http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs104.snc3/15138_1143602225395_1087672967_30331640_3400632_n.jpg" /></blockquote> tired of the facebook requests from indo kids aswell. whatever it takes , do it. 95941 Post 2009-11-06T05:19:13-05:00 3140781 7534 2009-11-06T05:19:13-05:00 Agreed to the thread. Agreed to banned those people/designers who copied others artwork, but please guys, be wise even just a bit. NOT ALL of them should be banned. Admit that most of them are, but there are minor great artist from Indo here too. You might not see them but they have their own originality. Isn't that all great designers have respect to other original designers here as well? Or may be I was wrong about it? Your choice guys. Just letting you know what I have in mind :) 95941 Post 2009-11-06T05:51:21-05:00 3140911 85921 2009-11-06T05:51:21-05:00 hey, im indonesian... whats wrong with my country? or maybe whats wrong with me as an Indonesian people? please don't hate the country just because of few people from my country has screwed up here... yea, i'm a passive member in this group, but i'm very sad to see something like this should happened here.. 95941 Post 2009-11-06T05:52:52-05:00 3140921 14301 2009-11-06T05:52:52-05:00 I agree, you can ban a whole country because of some douche bags, I mean America has New Jersey right. zing 95941 Post 2009-11-06T05:53:42-05:00 3140931 506 2009-11-06T05:53:42-05:00 I also hate peoples who steal and screw up what I have done... but just only their personal... not their family, religion, or their country... 95941 Post 2009-11-06T06:07:34-05:00 3140981 14301 2009-11-06T06:07:34-05:00 <blockquote><cite>Betraydan said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>Colemadethis said:</cite> also, then i wouldnt get facebook requests that look like this: <img src="http://hphotos-snc1.fbcdn.net/hs205.snc1/7227_1132779914844_1087672967_30306635_1925374_n.jpg" /> (Oli Sykes face RIP) <img src="http://hphotos-snc1.fbcdn.net/hs149.snc1/5531_1100478107319_1087672967_30230600_8047247_n.jpg" /><img src="http://hphotos-snc1.fbcdn.net/hs225.snc1/7227_1128206920522_1087672967_30297985_4721291_n.jpg" /><img src="http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs104.snc3/15138_1143602225395_1087672967_30331640_3400632_n.jpg" /></blockquote> tired of the facebook requests from indo kids aswell. whatever it takes , do it.</blockquote> <blockquote><cite>Colemadethis said:</cite> also, then i wouldnt get facebook requests that look like this: <img src="http://hphotos-snc1.fbcdn.net/hs205.snc1/7227_1132779914844_1087672967_30306635_1925374_n.jpg" /> (Oli Sykes face RIP) <img src="http://hphotos-snc1.fbcdn.net/hs149.snc1/5531_1100478107319_1087672967_30230600_8047247_n.jpg" /><img src="http://hphotos-snc1.fbcdn.net/hs225.snc1/7227_1128206920522_1087672967_30297985_4721291_n.jpg" /><img src="http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs104.snc3/15138_1143602225395_1087672967_30331640_3400632_n.jpg" /></blockquote> @Colemadethis: pleaseeee.... just ignore them then.. @Betraydan: U're not helping.. shut up.. 95941 Post 2009-11-06T06:09:43-05:00 3141001 58961 2009-11-06T06:09:43-05:00 <blockquote><cite>skull with hair said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>dobi said:</cite> might be too late in this thread but here goes... this site from day one has been fairly community based no matter how drama filled stuff seems to get. i spend more time on here than anywhere else. i have ditched other internet forums because this place takes up too much time. there are a ton of people on here / connections i never would have made if not for emptees. i know this is the same for the majority of you. there is no secret that piracy is rampant in indonesia, it has happened to the majority of the designers / brands around here. it seems about a year ago the indos caught wind of this place and have just been sucking the life out of everything and bootlegging it as much as humanly possible. language barrier aside, very few give anything back to this community, all they do is take. what we do usually get in return is nonsensical designs which are gore for the sake of gore with no meaning / artistic merit whatsoever. <img src="http://cache0.emptees.com/images/559761/rampanda.jpg" /> ban indonesia.</blockquote> i wonder if people will think this is subjective though, because i don't think there is any difference bettween this... <img src="http://cache0.emptees.com/images/559761/rampanda.jpg" /> and this... <img src="http://cache0.emptees.com/images/523501/sample_emptees.jpg" /> i personally think they both completely awful but i understand other people might not feel that way.</blockquote> GBI has been borrowing styles from the start her profile looks like a collection of emptees. it mite seem like a bad thing to do banning Indonesia but the alternative is that you all stop posting because they will continue to steal ideas, styles, whole images and so on. 95941 Post 2009-11-06T06:26:15-05:00 3141191 9442 2009-11-06T06:26:15-05:00 <blockquote><cite>quakerninja said:</cite> I missed what happened, -Emptees made original art. -Some not all Indonesians stole the art obviously from Emptees -Emptees retaliated with multiple manticoreings, and thus began a hatred for not only the individual rippers but a whole region of the world. -Feeling a sense of national pride, Indonesians defended their country mates. with a counter manticoreing. -Emptees now hates indonesians more then ever? Is that about right.</blockquote> You missed nothing, most of those who commented on this thread should be banned and removed from the internet;) 95941 Post 2009-11-06T06:34:14-05:00 3141251 519 2009-11-06T06:34:14-05:00 <blockquote><cite>The Shadow Puppet said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>Betraydan said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>Colemadethis said:</cite> also, then i wouldnt get facebook requests that look like this: <img src="http://hphotos-snc1.fbcdn.net/hs205.snc1/7227_1132779914844_1087672967_30306635_1925374_n.jpg" /> (Oli Sykes face RIP) <img src="http://hphotos-snc1.fbcdn.net/hs149.snc1/5531_1100478107319_1087672967_30230600_8047247_n.jpg" /><img src="http://hphotos-snc1.fbcdn.net/hs225.snc1/7227_1128206920522_1087672967_30297985_4721291_n.jpg" /><img src="http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs104.snc3/15138_1143602225395_1087672967_30331640_3400632_n.jpg" /></blockquote> tired of the facebook requests from indo kids aswell. whatever it takes , do it.</blockquote> <blockquote><cite>Colemadethis said:</cite> also, then i wouldnt get facebook requests that look like this: <img src="http://hphotos-snc1.fbcdn.net/hs205.snc1/7227_1132779914844_1087672967_30306635_1925374_n.jpg" /> (Oli Sykes face RIP) <img src="http://hphotos-snc1.fbcdn.net/hs149.snc1/5531_1100478107319_1087672967_30230600_8047247_n.jpg" /><img src="http://hphotos-snc1.fbcdn.net/hs225.snc1/7227_1128206920522_1087672967_30297985_4721291_n.jpg" /><img src="http://hphotos-snc3.fbcdn.net/hs104.snc3/15138_1143602225395_1087672967_30331640_3400632_n.jpg" /></blockquote> @Colemadethis: pleaseeee.... just ignore them then.. @Betraydan: U're not helping.. shut up..</blockquote> i am not trying to help...i am just in support of this thread. 95941 Post 2009-11-06T06:50:30-05:00 3141301 7534 2009-11-06T06:50:30-05:00 <blockquote><cite>The Shadow Puppet said:</cite> <img src="http://i655.photobucket.com/albums/uu275/TheShadowPuppetClothing/SKELETcrOwN_.jpg" /> and yet oss caroch's shit is TOTD even SWH and dobi can't make like that... ironic <img src="http://www.kaskus.us/images/smilies/sumbangan/q11.gif" /></blockquote> dude seriously. You're saying that shit to probably two of the guys that stand out the most here on emptees. If it wasn't in style then it is in the way they are honest with people. I'm sick of every fucking 'splatter-skull-swords-gore-drips-kill-m-all-zombie' designs that have been going around here. So then you come up with this well crafted piece of art, no doubt, but with the right drawing skills everyone could make that piece, there's a shit ton of original work over here and you pick that shit as the example. Way to go man! 95941 Post 2009-11-06T06:59:33-05:00 3141451 1096 2009-11-06T07:00:35-05:00 <blockquote><cite>The Shadow Puppet said:</cite> <img src="http://i655.photobucket.com/albums/uu275/TheShadowPuppetClothing/SKELETcrOwN_.jpg" /> and yet oss caroch's shit is TOTD even SWH and dobi can't make like that... ironic <img src="http://www.kaskus.us/images/smilies/sumbangan/q11.gif" /></blockquote> anybody can make a zombie / skull tee and let the mindless droves love it. in fact every zombie / gore related tee i've made has gotten totd, doesn't mean they are my best work at all. #1 song in the country is by owl city, i'll let that speak for itself. 95941 Post 2009-11-06T07:24:45-05:00 3141631 14 2009-11-06T07:24:45-05:00 <blockquote><cite>mynameismartijn said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>The Shadow Puppet said:</cite> <img src="http://i655.photobucket.com/albums/uu275/TheShadowPuppetClothing/SKELETcrOwN_.jpg" /> and yet oss caroch's shit is TOTD even SWH and dobi can't make like that... ironic <img src="http://www.kaskus.us/images/smilies/sumbangan/q11.gif" /></blockquote> dude seriously. You're saying that shit to probably two of the guys that stand out the most here on emptees. If it wasn't in style then it is in the way they are honest with people. I'm sick of every fucking 'splatter-skull-swords-gore-drips-kill-m-all-zombie' designs that have been going around here. So then you come up with this well crafted piece of art, no doubt, but with the right drawing skills everyone could make that piece, there's a shit ton of original work over here and you pick that shit as the example. Way to go man!</blockquote>QFT <blockquote><cite>DrewGliever said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>Sam Montana said:</cite> "We're sorry, but because of your own fault, emptees is not available in your country." And link them to deviantart or something then.</blockquote> Who the fuck are you?</blockquote>I'm Sam. I could ask you the same, but I don't give a shit, so I won't. Have a nice day. 95941 Post 2009-11-06T07:25:11-05:00 3141641 25661 2009-11-06T07:25:30-05:00 btw, this is going nowhere. locked. 95941 Post 2009-11-06T07:29:48-05:00 3141681 14 2009-11-06T07:29:48-05:00