I don’t know if you guys would be into this, but there are some forums I frequent and they share albums with eachother. It helps me get into music that I would never have been into before.
I’ve always wondered about the ethics of this. Like I never think twice about downloading someone’s album that someone shares, but I always feel guilty about uploading someone’s album because I know how hard people work to make these albums. Especially if I’ve met the band members.
I have some stuff I’d like to share with people for the sole purpose of either a) promoting that band to a larger audience or b) returning the favor to other members and not leeching everyone’s albums without uploading myself.
What are your thoughts?
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derekdeal said 10 months ago
i dig simplify media cuz i can stream a friends itunes playlist without actually downloading anything. then if i want the music for myself i can go pick it up or download it legit.
if anyone uses that, im down to share
Jon Kruse said 10 months ago
Ratatat - Remixes Volume II
Guitar/cool beats meets rap
http://www.myspace.com/ratatatmusic
http://rapidshare.com/files/63130045/Ratatat_Remixes_Mixtape_Volume_2.zip
this one is for free or on their website.
Ivoryline - new cd
http://www.myspace.com/ivoryline
http://rapidshare.com/files/83539129/Ivoryline-There_Came_A_Lion-_Advance_-2008-FNT.rar
ChadDoesDesign said 10 months ago
you rule man.hahahaha
seibei said 10 months ago
ooooh, ratatat remixes? thanks for the link!
chrisrushing said 10 months ago
you guys really might want to be careful about this, considering this is a very public site.
just a thought.
Ivoryline is not really on a small label even though they are an unknown band.
andrE w. said 10 months ago
wow they are one of only three bands on tooth and nail without a wiki page, talk about being left out.
with that i was just going through all the music on my comp and ive realized i miss brody dalle, alot. unfortunately she is still married to the guy from QOSA buttttttt she formed a new band.
alexgoldstein said 10 months ago
I like this idea...
SimplifyMedia: alexgoldstein
Hit it up
AYYOGOLDSTEIN said 10 months ago
I am a music pirate to the fullest extent.
Never uploaded, always downloaded.
;D
I have been turned on to a lot of music via the forums and boards I frequent and have seen a lot of hard working bands get posted.
Although I have thought of the ethics of this, I try and do my part to help out the bands I like. I recommend them to my friends and help spread the word if they deserve it.
"Why be in the navy when you can be a pirate?"
-Steve Jobs
jfinley said 10 months ago
Perhaps the mods can make a thread "private" meaning only certain registered users with XXX number of posts can read it?
Pearls To Pigs said 10 months ago
jeff i used to send you albums back in the day (this is joe from ohio). i think this is a decent idea. i’m making a compilation filled with songs influenced by north carolina to celebrate my recent move here. it’ll have a bunch of smaller artists, hopefully it’ll get people into them. i’ll post the link here when i finish it.
ThinkBaker said 10 months ago
ratatat is my myspace song right now. dope shit.
jfinley said 10 months ago
It’s Joe Snow! Haha long time no talk.
So yeah, I signed up for the Simplify Media thing. Seems like a rad idea. Let’s do it!
My name on there is jfinley - invite me.
derekdeal said 10 months ago
mines altairdesigns
AYYOGOLDSTEIN said 10 months ago
I can’t figure out what my SM name is
I think its MGOLDSTEIN
Terror said 10 months ago
i hate rapidshare with a passion
alexgoldstein said 10 months ago
Me too...mediafire FTW.
It’s mitchellgoldstein.
alexgoldstein said 10 months ago
We’re connected. "Jeff Finley - Bowling" ...
Man oh man hahaha.
Ouchless said 10 months ago
simplify media isn’t considered illegal downloading is it?
ThinkBaker said 10 months ago
mines "thebaker"
alexgoldstein said 10 months ago
Nope.
AYYOGOLDSTEIN said 10 months ago
New rule, everyone on Emptees must make a simplify media account. haha
ThinkBaker said 10 months ago
I agree.
it’s a neat chance to see what other people are listening to inspire great designs.
Jeff, you play drums on your lap very well. ; )
ThinkBaker said 10 months ago
Alex! yes! Band of horses rock. I saw them live with Modest Mouse. it was amazing.
jfinley said 10 months ago
Oh shit, haha, I totally forgot about those recordings.
hideouscarwreck said 10 months ago
i never ever ever ever do that. my friends hate me because i won’t burn them cds. but first off i paid for the cd, you can too, and second off, it doesn’t support the music scene.
jfinley said 10 months ago
Everyone on emptees SHOULD sign up for Simplify Media, that’d be great!
Btw, if anyone wants anything from my library, email me and I could send you stuff.
ThinkBaker said 10 months ago
How so? in the last 20mins. I bought two cds from itunes because of hearing stuff in others itunes folders.
I supported the bands. Besides it’s not stealing if you can only hear online. right? just like a radio.
jfinley said 10 months ago
My band’s (By Bread Alone) practice recordings are on there- which are all new and not supposed to be heard by anyone yet. So if you listen to it, obviously, their shitty rough recordings - not even demo quality stuff. Just a disclaimer - listen at your own discretion!
Also, every single track I’ve made (BOXOMYLK) electronically is in my library too, so those usually aren’t supposed to be heard by the public either. This could be embarassing.
ThinkBaker said 10 months ago
Everyone should check out "How I Became the Bomb" in my library, their a local pop-electro group. They put on on sweet-ass live show.
besides, you can’t go wrong when you have songs called "Kneel before Zod"!
justgeoff said 10 months ago
my screen name is geoffmay
alexgoldstein said 10 months ago
Anything you found from me? Because that would rule haha.
LISTEN TO BE YOUR OWN PET.
One of the members is a good friend of mine.
justgeoff said 10 months ago
Anyone who listens to mine: Bon Jovi and Hairspray were put on iTunes by my wife.
I have one song up that I recorded on my laptop (look for Geoff May as the artist). I’ll have to post some more.
ThinkBaker said 10 months ago
yea, actually. You got good taste in music man!
alexgoldstein said 10 months ago
What did you buy? Haha.
ThinkBaker said 10 months ago
RIIIGHT.
haha, no dude, I’m in the same boat as you. I’ll put mine on random and all the sudden some shite like Carrie Underwood or friggin the Dirty Dancin soundtrack will pop up!
I of course delete immediately.
alexgoldstein said 10 months ago
The newest Hanson album is in my library...and I am not ashamed...
ThinkBaker said 10 months ago
one of the "The American Analog" cd’s.
And um.... well I WAS gonna bash your balls at first for having Hanson...... but I started to listen to it.... and........um...... yea. Don’t tell anybody, but it’s not that bad.
alexgoldstein said 10 months ago
Hahahahaha ;)
The American Analog Set is one my favorite bands. Good for any mood haha.
ThinkBaker said 10 months ago
Yea! I’ve never heard of them, but I like them alot!
Thanks man.
ryanmiller said 10 months ago
the new hanson album is fucking great. i don’t care what anyone says..
justgeoff said 10 months ago
I won’t delete them. I just push her down the stairs.
ThinkBaker said 10 months ago
Hhahahahah! Unfortunately, we don’t have stairs.... but we do have dogs to trip over.
Aniast said 10 months ago
DJ edIT-artsy remix featuring the Grouch.
Invite me screen name: Aniast
AYYOGOLDSTEIN said 10 months ago
I love how part of this thread became about Hanson really fast, but yes, that CD is catchy as hell.
alexgoldstein said 10 months ago
Is hell catchy?
derekdeal said 10 months ago
this is awesome, its like im peering into all of your souls
justgeoff said 10 months ago
That what I always say. Someone will say "oh man, that’s fun as hell". I always wonder how fun eternal damnation can really be.
justinryan said 10 months ago
with simplify, am i able to make certain albums not streamable or whatever? there are a few advances that i would be seriously killed if i let anyone hear.
edit: mines citylights
justgeoff said 10 months ago
Yeah, you can go into preferences>sharing in your iTunes and make only specific folders available
MadeByMAS said 10 months ago
Im from NC and used to hang out around Tragic Hero records a lot. One of my best buds is in Alesana (you may not like them but check out the label, Tragic Hero Records)
Pearls To Pigs said 10 months ago
yeah dude im familiar with tragic hero and alesana.
MadeByMAS said 10 months ago
A while back I traded my ipod for a zune. Mainly because my friend bought a mac and I had a pc but now I have a mac and kind of regret it.
So I do not have any songs on my itunes for this mac but can I still sign up for Simplify?
nadameansnothing.com said 10 months ago
totally AGREED!...i do the same thing. c’mon guys how many of you guys does cd artworks? cause i do and i love special and cool cd artworks...and downloading not also takes the artist work away it is also our work as art directors/designers/artist/whatever...support independent media.
derekdeal said 10 months ago
i get what you’re saying, but maybe do a little research, all simplify media is, is a way to stream your itunes like an internet radio station amongst friends. Its the same thing as letting someone borrow your ipod, or listening to a cd together. Most of the music in my playlist is paid for, and if someone wants access to what i have, they are going to have to pay for it too.
nate gonz said 10 months ago
im on it
name: nategonz
i have alot of unreleased tracks
Terror said 10 months ago
i wish simplify worked with windows media. my whole library’s on there, and i dont really want to go through winamp for music.
justgeoff said 10 months ago
I download music like mad. If I like what I hear then I go buy it. Plus I love buying/owning CDs. To me it forces bands to always bring their A game. I’m not going to pay for an album with one or two good songs and 10 songs of filler. I think it’s insulting to the fans.
Jon Kruse said 10 months ago
I just got the new Protest the Hero, it’s so sick. Ahhhh!
MadeByMAS said 10 months ago
can someone let me know about my situation I posted a few up?
ThinkBaker said 10 months ago
About the signing up thing? I dunno, I think you have to have Itunes for it to work... I could be wrong though.
BUT i gotta say this SM deal is friggin sweet! it’s like my own little emptees radio! I love it. I’ve discovered all kinds of new stuff that I love from you guys! thanks!
MadeByMAS said 10 months ago
Ok so I guess I need to get some music onto itunes before I sign up. I would love to listen to other empteers music but I guess no one would want to join with me being I have no music on there.
Somone just told me about soulseek has anyone used that?
Aniast said 10 months ago
Just curious, what’s the best new music everyone has found?
sockmonkee said 10 months ago
not new band, but new song by Colour Revolt is nicey.
AYYOGOLDSTEIN said 3 months ago
SimplifyMedia is now available for iPhone (WOOHOO!), free for a limited time though, hop to it.
They dont show up on search but are under Music.
Stephan.GFX said 3 months ago
My SM is StephanGFX. I invited most of you already.
kenny g said 3 months ago
i never knew about this before...
name on there is kennyg... i’ve taken the liberty of adding you guys.
rayb said 3 months ago
“I’ve always wondered about the ethics of this. Like I never think twice about downloading someone’s album that someone shares"
Finley, consider that these share sites are popping up like crazy, and how much money some of the big ones must be making from ads (and some of them with subscriptions). Do you know how much of this money is shared with the artists and labels? Nothing at all. If an artist’s album is downloaded 1,000,000 times from share sites, they see not a thing, but 1 mil hits equals very good business for the share site. The ad revenue & subscription money is significant.
Aside from that, distributing someone’s music "for them" is not just illegal it is truly unethical. I’ll admit, like you, I have no problem downloading in most cases - major artists, albums I can’t find elsewhere - but downloading/uploading indie artists through share sites is really just doing a disservice to a small creative businessperson.
RustyEight said 3 months ago
As an artist, I actually don’t care either way. If my music is not being shared, then I get to keep the profits. If it is shared, then more people have access to my music... which in the long term could lead to profits.
Its a win win.