I don't know if you guys would be into this, but there are some forums I frequent and they share albums with eachother. It helps me get into music that I would never have been into before. I've always wondered about the ethics of this. Like I never think twice about downloading someone's album that someone shares, but I always feel guilty about uploading someone's album because I know how hard people work to make these albums. Especially if I've met the band members. I have some stuff I'd like to share with people for the sole purpose of either a) promoting that band to a larger audience or b) returning the favor to other members and not leeching everyone's albums without uploading myself. What are your thoughts? 2008-08-15T12:30:01-04:00 68 2008-01-21T21:37:49-05:00 true 0 826 false false 2329 253 1 2009-11-21T06:01:43-05:00 4307 i dig simplify media cuz i can stream a friends itunes playlist without actually downloading anything. then if i want the music for myself i can go pick it up or download it legit. if anyone uses that, im down to share 826 Post 2008-01-21T21:59:22-05:00 19619 1146 2008-01-21T21:59:45-05:00 Ratatat - Remixes Volume II Guitar/cool beats meets rap http://www.myspace.com/ratatatmusic http://rapidshare.com/files/63130045/Ratatat_Remixes_Mixtape_Volume_2.zip this one is for free or on their website. Ivoryline - new cd http://www.myspace.com/ivoryline http://rapidshare.com/files/83539129/Ivoryline-There_Came_A_Lion-_Advance_-2008-FNT.rar 826 Post 2008-01-21T22:01:27-05:00 19620 1219 2008-01-21T22:01:27-05:00 <blockquote><cite>Jon Kruse said:</cite> http://www.myspace.com/ivoryline http://rapidshare.com/files/83539129/Ivoryline-There_Came_A_Lion-_Advance_-2008-FNT.rar </blockquote> you rule man.hahahaha 826 Post 2008-01-21T22:09:13-05:00 19626 664 2008-01-21T22:09:32-05:00 ooooh, ratatat remixes? thanks for the link! 826 Post 2008-01-21T22:09:48-05:00 19628 497 2008-01-21T22:09:48-05:00 you guys really might want to be careful about this, considering this is a very public site. just a thought. Ivoryline is not really on a small label even though they are an unknown band. 826 Post 2008-01-21T22:13:25-05:00 19629 954 2008-01-21T22:13:25-05:00 wow they are one of only three bands on tooth and nail without a wiki page, talk about being left out. with that i was just going through all the music on my comp and ive realized i miss brody dalle, alot. unfortunately she is still married to the guy from QOSA buttttttt she formed a new band. 826 Post 2008-01-21T22:24:54-05:00 19634 1208 2008-01-21T22:24:54-05:00 I like this idea... SimplifyMedia: alexgoldstein Hit it up 826 Post 2008-01-21T22:25:01-05:00 19635 244 2008-01-21T22:25:01-05:00 I am a music pirate to the fullest extent. Never uploaded, always downloaded. ;D I have been turned on to a lot of music via the forums and boards I frequent and have seen a lot of hard working bands get posted. Although I have thought of the ethics of this, I try and do my part to help out the bands I like. I recommend them to my friends and help spread the word if they deserve it. "Why be in the navy when you can be a pirate?" -Steve Jobs 826 Post 2008-01-21T22:27:51-05:00 19636 297 2008-01-21T22:27:51-05:00 <blockquote><cite>chrisrushing said:</cite> you guys really might want to be careful about this, considering this is a very public site. just a thought. Ivoryline is not really on a small label even though they are an unknown band. </blockquote> Perhaps the mods can make a thread "private" meaning only certain registered users with XXX number of posts can read it? 826 Post 2008-01-21T22:45:02-05:00 19646 253 2008-01-21T22:45:02-05:00 jeff i used to send you albums back in the day (this is joe from ohio). i think this is a decent idea. i'm making a compilation filled with songs influenced by north carolina to celebrate my recent move here. it'll have a bunch of smaller artists, hopefully it'll get people into them. i'll post the link here when i finish it. 826 Post 2008-01-21T22:51:25-05:00 19648 1815 2008-01-21T22:51:25-05:00 ratatat is my myspace song right now. dope shit. 826 Post 2008-01-21T23:10:35-05:00 19657 1567 2008-01-21T23:10:35-05:00 <blockquote><cite>Pearls To Pigs said:</cite> jeff i used to send you albums back in the day (this is joe from ohio). i think this is a decent idea. i'm making a compilation filled with songs influenced by north carolina to celebrate my recent move here. it'll have a bunch of smaller artists, hopefully it'll get people into them. i'll post the link here when i finish it. </blockquote> It's Joe Snow! Haha long time no talk. So yeah, I signed up for the Simplify Media thing. Seems like a rad idea. Let's do it! My name on there is <strong>jfinley</strong> - invite me. 826 Post 2008-01-21T23:19:39-05:00 19659 253 2008-01-21T23:20:18-05:00 mines altairdesigns 826 Post 2008-01-21T23:21:35-05:00 19661 1146 2008-01-21T23:21:35-05:00 I can't figure out what my SM name is I think its MGOLDSTEIN 826 Post 2008-01-21T23:23:32-05:00 19663 297 2008-01-21T23:23:32-05:00 i hate rapidshare with a passion 826 Post 2008-01-21T23:30:28-05:00 19666 570 2008-01-21T23:30:28-05:00 <blockquote><cite>Terror said:</cite> i hate rapidshare with a passion </blockquote> Me too...mediafire FTW. <blockquote><cite>AYYOGOLDSTEIN said:</cite> I can't figure out what my SM name is I think its MGOLDSTEIN </blockquote> It's mitchellgoldstein. 826 Post 2008-01-21T23:35:22-05:00 19668 244 2008-01-21T23:35:22-05:00 <blockquote><cite>jfinley said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>Pearls To Pigs said:</cite> jeff i used to send you albums back in the day (this is joe from ohio). i think this is a decent idea. i'm making a compilation filled with songs influenced by north carolina to celebrate my recent move here. it'll have a bunch of smaller artists, hopefully it'll get people into them. i'll post the link here when i finish it. </blockquote> It's Joe Snow! Haha long time no talk. So yeah, I signed up for the Simplify Media thing. Seems like a rad idea. Let's do it! My name on there is <strong>jfinley</strong> - invite me. </blockquote> We're connected. "Jeff Finley - Bowling" ... Man oh man hahaha. 826 Post 2008-01-21T23:37:14-05:00 19669 244 2008-01-21T23:37:14-05:00 simplify media isn't considered illegal downloading is it? 826 Post 2008-01-21T23:45:13-05:00 19672 1613 2008-01-21T23:45:58-05:00 mines "thebaker" 826 Post 2008-01-21T23:46:37-05:00 19673 1567 2008-01-21T23:46:37-05:00 <blockquote><cite>Ouchless said:</cite> simplify media isn't considered illegal downloading is it? </blockquote> Nope. 826 Post 2008-01-21T23:49:05-05:00 19674 244 2008-01-21T23:49:05-05:00 New rule, everyone on Emptees must make a simplify media account. haha 826 Post 2008-01-21T23:51:58-05:00 19676 297 2008-01-21T23:51:58-05:00 <blockquote><cite>AYYOGOLDSTEIN said:</cite> New rule, everyone on Emptees must make a simplify media account. haha </blockquote> I agree. it's a neat chance to see what other people are listening to inspire great designs. Jeff, you play drums on your lap very well. ; ) 826 Post 2008-01-22T00:01:49-05:00 19679 1567 2008-01-22T00:01:49-05:00 Alex! yes! Band of horses rock. I saw them live with Modest Mouse. it was amazing. 826 Post 2008-01-22T00:04:48-05:00 19681 1567 2008-01-22T00:04:48-05:00 <blockquote><cite>alexgoldstein said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>jfinley said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>Pearls To Pigs said:</cite> jeff i used to send you albums back in the day (this is joe from ohio). i think this is a decent idea. i'm making a compilation filled with songs influenced by north carolina to celebrate my recent move here. it'll have a bunch of smaller artists, hopefully it'll get people into them. i'll post the link here when i finish it. </blockquote> It's Joe Snow! Haha long time no talk. So yeah, I signed up for the Simplify Media thing. Seems like a rad idea. Let's do it! My name on there is <strong>jfinley</strong> - invite me. </blockquote> We're connected. "Jeff Finley - Bowling" ... Man oh man hahaha. </blockquote> Oh shit, haha, I totally forgot about those recordings. 826 Post 2008-01-22T00:09:45-05:00 19683 253 2008-01-22T00:09:45-05:00 i never ever ever ever do that. my friends hate me because i won't burn them cds. but first off i paid for the cd, you can too, and second off, it doesn't support the music scene. 826 Post 2008-01-22T00:13:01-05:00 19686 884 2008-01-22T00:13:01-05:00 Everyone on emptees SHOULD sign up for Simplify Media, that'd be great! Btw, if anyone wants anything from my library, email me and I could send you stuff. 826 Post 2008-01-22T00:19:55-05:00 19691 253 2008-01-22T00:21:17-05:00 <blockquote><cite>hideouscarwreck said:</cite> i never ever ever ever do that. my friends hate me because i won't burn them cds. but first off i paid for the cd, you can too, and second off, it doesn't support the music scene. </blockquote> How so? in the last 20mins. I bought two cds from itunes because of hearing stuff in others itunes folders. I supported the bands. Besides it's not stealing if you can only hear online. right? just like a radio. 826 Post 2008-01-22T00:21:19-05:00 19692 1567 2008-01-22T00:21:19-05:00 My band's (By Bread Alone) practice recordings are on there- which are all new and not supposed to be heard by anyone yet. So if you listen to it, obviously, their shitty rough recordings - not even demo quality stuff. Just a disclaimer - listen at your own discretion! Also, every single track I've made (BOXOMYLK) electronically is in my library too, so those usually aren't supposed to be heard by the public either. This could be embarassing. 826 Post 2008-01-22T00:33:52-05:00 19697 253 2008-01-22T00:35:14-05:00 Everyone should check out "How I Became the Bomb" in my library, their a local pop-electro group. They put on on sweet-ass live show. besides, you can't go wrong when you have songs called "Kneel before Zod"! 826 Post 2008-01-22T00:38:41-05:00 19703 1567 2008-01-22T00:39:04-05:00 my screen name is geoffmay 826 Post 2008-01-22T00:46:12-05:00 19705 1661 2008-01-22T00:46:12-05:00 <blockquote><cite>ThinkBaker said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>hideouscarwreck said:</cite> i never ever ever ever do that. my friends hate me because i won't burn them cds. but first off i paid for the cd, you can too, and second off, it doesn't support the music scene. </blockquote> How so? in the last 20mins. I bought two cds from itunes because of hearing stuff in others itunes folders. I supported the bands. Besides it's not stealing if you can only hear online. right? just like a radio. </blockquote> Anything you found from me? Because that would rule haha. LISTEN TO BE YOUR OWN PET. One of the members is a good friend of mine. 826 Post 2008-01-22T00:49:04-05:00 19707 244 2008-01-22T00:49:04-05:00 Anyone who listens to mine: Bon Jovi and Hairspray were put on iTunes by my wife. I have one song up that I recorded on my laptop (look for Geoff May as the artist). I'll have to post some more. 826 Post 2008-01-22T00:52:12-05:00 19711 1661 2008-01-22T00:57:15-05:00 yea, actually. You got good taste in music man! 826 Post 2008-01-22T00:53:05-05:00 19714 1567 2008-01-22T00:53:05-05:00 <blockquote><cite>ThinkBaker said:</cite> yea, actually. You got good taste in music man! </blockquote> What did you buy? Haha. 826 Post 2008-01-22T00:55:14-05:00 19716 244 2008-01-22T00:55:34-05:00 <blockquote><cite>justgeoff said:</cite> Anyone who listens to mine: Bon Jovi and Hairspray were put on iTunes by my wife. </blockquote> RIIIGHT. haha, no dude, I'm in the same boat as you. I'll put mine on random and all the sudden some shite like Carrie Underwood or friggin the Dirty Dancin soundtrack will pop up! I of course delete immediately. 826 Post 2008-01-22T00:56:20-05:00 19718 1567 2008-01-22T00:56:20-05:00 The newest Hanson album is in my library...and I am not ashamed... 826 Post 2008-01-22T00:58:26-05:00 19719 244 2008-01-22T00:58:26-05:00 one of the "The American Analog" cd's. And um.... well I WAS gonna bash your balls at first for having Hanson...... but I started to listen to it.... and........um...... yea. Don't tell anybody, but it's not that bad. 826 Post 2008-01-22T00:58:47-05:00 19720 1567 2008-01-22T00:58:47-05:00 <blockquote><cite>ThinkBaker said:</cite> one of the "The American Analog" cd's. And um.... well I WAS gonna bash your balls at first for having Hanson...... but I started to listen to it.... and........um...... yea. Don't tell anybody, but it's not that bad. </blockquote> Hahahahaha ;) The American Analog Set is one my favorite bands. Good for any mood haha. 826 Post 2008-01-22T00:59:30-05:00 19721 244 2008-01-22T00:59:30-05:00 <blockquote><cite>alexgoldstein said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>ThinkBaker said:</cite> one of the "The American Analog" cd's. And um.... well I WAS gonna bash your balls at first for having Hanson...... but I started to listen to it.... and........um...... yea. Don't tell anybody, but it's not that bad. </blockquote> Hahahahaha ;) The American Analog Set is one my favorite bands. Good for any mood haha. </blockquote> Yea! I've never heard of them, but I like them alot! Thanks man. 826 Post 2008-01-22T01:02:14-05:00 19722 1567 2008-01-22T01:02:14-05:00 the new hanson album is fucking great. i don't care what anyone says.. 826 Post 2008-01-22T01:03:25-05:00 19723 269 2008-01-22T01:03:25-05:00 <blockquote><cite>ThinkBaker said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>justgeoff said:</cite> Anyone who listens to mine: Bon Jovi and Hairspray were put on iTunes by my wife. </blockquote> RIIIGHT. haha, no dude, I'm in the same boat as you. I'll put mine on random and all the sudden some shite like Carrie Underwood or friggin the Dirty Dancin soundtrack will pop up! I of course delete immediately. </blockquote> I won't delete them. I just push her down the stairs. 826 Post 2008-01-22T01:04:08-05:00 19724 1661 2008-01-22T01:04:08-05:00 <blockquote><cite>justgeoff said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>ThinkBaker said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>justgeoff said:</cite> Anyone who listens to mine: Bon Jovi and Hairspray were put on iTunes by my wife. </blockquote> RIIIGHT. haha, no dude, I'm in the same boat as you. I'll put mine on random and all the sudden some shite like Carrie Underwood or friggin the Dirty Dancin soundtrack will pop up! I of course delete immediately. </blockquote> I won't delete them. I just push her down the stairs. </blockquote> Hhahahahah! Unfortunately, we don't have stairs.... but we do have dogs to trip over. 826 Post 2008-01-22T01:05:24-05:00 19726 1567 2008-01-22T01:05:24-05:00 DJ edIT-artsy remix featuring the Grouch. Invite me screen name: Aniast 826 Post 2008-01-22T01:43:47-05:00 19740 1993 2008-01-22T01:43:47-05:00 I love how part of this thread became about Hanson really fast, but yes, that CD is catchy as hell. 826 Post 2008-01-22T07:17:14-05:00 19757 297 2008-01-22T07:17:14-05:00 <blockquote><cite>AYYOGOLDSTEIN said:</cite> I love how part of this thread became about Hanson really fast, but yes, that CD is catchy as hell. </blockquote> Is hell catchy? 826 Post 2008-01-22T07:31:48-05:00 19759 244 2008-01-22T07:31:48-05:00 this is awesome, its like im peering into all of your souls 826 Post 2008-01-22T09:15:09-05:00 19763 1146 2008-01-22T09:15:09-05:00 <blockquote><cite>alexgoldstein said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>AYYOGOLDSTEIN said:</cite> I love how part of this thread became about Hanson really fast, but yes, that CD is catchy as hell. </blockquote> Is hell catchy? </blockquote> That what I always say. Someone will say "oh man, that's fun as hell". I always wonder how fun eternal damnation can really be. 826 Post 2008-01-22T09:50:25-05:00 19765 1661 2008-01-22T09:50:25-05:00 with simplify, am i able to make certain albums not streamable or whatever? there are a few advances that i would be seriously killed if i let anyone hear. edit: mines citylights 826 Post 2008-01-22T10:17:55-05:00 19775 178 2008-01-22T10:20:55-05:00 <blockquote><cite>justinryan said:</cite> with simplify, am i able to make certain albums not streamable or whatever? there are a few advances that i would be seriously killed if i let anyone hear. </blockquote> Yeah, you can go into preferences>sharing in your iTunes and make only specific folders available 826 Post 2008-01-22T10:20:45-05:00 19778 1661 2008-01-22T10:20:45-05:00 <blockquote><cite>Pearls To Pigs said:</cite> jeff i used to send you albums back in the day (this is joe from ohio). i think this is a decent idea. i'm making a compilation filled with songs influenced by north carolina to celebrate my recent move here. it'll have a bunch of smaller artists, hopefully it'll get people into them. i'll post the link here when i finish it. </blockquote> Im from NC and used to hang out around Tragic Hero records a lot. One of my best buds is in Alesana (you may not like them but check out the label, Tragic Hero Records) 826 Post 2008-01-22T11:01:37-05:00 19789 537 2008-01-22T11:01:37-05:00 yeah dude im familiar with tragic hero and alesana. 826 Post 2008-01-22T11:11:50-05:00 19797 1815 2008-01-22T11:11:50-05:00 A while back I traded my ipod for a zune. Mainly because my friend bought a mac and I had a pc but now I have a mac and kind of regret it. So I do not have any songs on my itunes for this mac but can I still sign up for Simplify? 826 Post 2008-01-22T11:15:14-05:00 19799 537 2008-01-22T11:15:14-05:00 <blockquote><cite>hideouscarwreck said:</cite> i never ever ever ever do that. my friends hate me because i won't burn them cds. but first off i paid for the cd, you can too, and second off, it doesn't support the music scene. </blockquote> totally AGREED!...i do the same thing. c'mon guys how many of you guys does cd artworks? cause i do and i love special and cool cd artworks...and downloading not also takes the artist work away it is also our work as art directors/designers/artist/whatever...support independent media. 826 Post 2008-01-22T11:37:30-05:00 19807 1090 2008-01-22T11:37:50-05:00 <blockquote><cite>nadameansnothing.com said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>hideouscarwreck said:</cite> i never ever ever ever do that. my friends hate me because i won't burn them cds. but first off i paid for the cd, you can too, and second off, it doesn't support the music scene. </blockquote> totally AGREED!...i do the same thing. c'mon guys how many of you guys does cd artworks? cause i do and i love special and cool cd artworks...and downloading not also takes the artist work away it is also our work as art directors/designers/artist/whatever...support independent media. </blockquote> i get what you're saying, but maybe do a little research, all simplify media is, is a way to stream your itunes like an internet radio station amongst friends. Its the same thing as letting someone borrow your ipod, or listening to a cd together. Most of the music in my playlist is paid for, and if someone wants access to what i have, they are going to have to pay for it too. 826 Post 2008-01-22T11:45:00-05:00 19808 1146 2008-01-22T11:47:06-05:00 im on it name: nategonz i have alot of unreleased tracks 826 Post 2008-01-22T12:53:44-05:00 19829 1625 2008-01-22T12:53:44-05:00 i wish simplify worked with windows media. my whole library's on there, and i dont really want to go through winamp for music. 826 Post 2008-01-22T13:33:10-05:00 19834 570 2008-01-22T13:33:10-05:00 <blockquote><cite>nadameansnothing.com said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>hideouscarwreck said:</cite> i never ever ever ever do that. my friends hate me because i won't burn them cds. but first off i paid for the cd, you can too, and second off, it doesn't support the music scene. </blockquote> totally AGREED!...i do the same thing. c'mon guys how many of you guys does cd artworks? cause i do and i love special and cool cd artworks...and downloading not also takes the artist work away it is also our work as art directors/designers/artist/whatever...support independent media. </blockquote> I download music like mad. If I like what I hear then I go buy it. Plus I love buying/owning CDs. To me it forces bands to always bring their A game. I'm not going to pay for an album with one or two good songs and 10 songs of filler. I think it's insulting to the fans. 826 Post 2008-01-22T14:17:56-05:00 19862 1661 2008-01-22T14:18:59-05:00 I just got the new Protest the Hero, it's so sick. Ahhhh! 826 Post 2008-01-22T20:36:19-05:00 20033 1219 2008-01-22T20:36:19-05:00 can someone let me know about my situation I posted a few up? 826 Post 2008-01-22T20:46:29-05:00 20037 537 2008-01-22T20:46:29-05:00 <blockquote><cite>MadeByMAS said:</cite> can someone let me know about my situation I posted a few up? </blockquote> About the signing up thing? I dunno, I think you have to have Itunes for it to work... I could be wrong though. BUT i gotta say this SM deal is friggin sweet! it's like my own little emptees radio! I love it. I've discovered all kinds of new stuff that I love from you guys! thanks! 826 Post 2008-01-23T00:35:16-05:00 20164 1567 2008-01-23T00:35:29-05:00 Ok so I guess I need to get some music onto itunes before I sign up. I would love to listen to other empteers music but I guess no one would want to join with me being I have no music on there. Somone just told me about soulseek has anyone used that? 826 Post 2008-01-23T14:45:10-05:00 20462 537 2008-01-23T14:45:35-05:00 Just curious, what's the best new music everyone has found? 826 Post 2008-01-25T01:35:32-05:00 21305 1993 2008-01-25T01:35:32-05:00 <blockquote><cite>Aniast said:</cite> Just curious, what's the best new music everyone has found? </blockquote> not new band, but new song by Colour Revolt is nicey. 826 Post 2008-01-25T01:55:29-05:00 21308 598 2008-01-25T01:55:29-05:00 SimplifyMedia is now available for iPhone (WOOHOO!), free for a limited time though, hop to it. They dont show up on search but are under Music. 826 Post 2008-08-14T19:36:31-04:00 164248 297 2008-08-14T19:36:31-04:00 My SM is StephanGFX. I invited most of you already. 826 Post 2008-08-14T20:24:13-04:00 164274 5439 2008-08-14T20:24:13-04:00 i never knew about this before... name on there is <b>kennyg</b>... i've taken the liberty of adding you guys. 826 Post 2008-08-14T20:26:07-04:00 164275 1611 2008-08-14T20:26:07-04:00 “I've always wondered about the ethics of this. Like I never think twice about downloading someone's album that someone shares" Finley, consider that these share sites are popping up like crazy, and how much money some of the big ones must be making from ads (and some of them with subscriptions). Do you know how much of this money is shared with the artists and labels? Nothing at all. If an artist's album is downloaded 1,000,000 times from share sites, they see not a thing, but 1 mil hits equals very good business for the share site. The ad revenue & subscription money is significant. Aside from that, distributing someone's music "for them" is not just illegal it is truly unethical. I'll admit, like you, I have no problem downloading in most cases - major artists, albums I can't find elsewhere - but downloading/uploading indie artists through share sites is really just doing a disservice to a small creative businessperson. 826 Post 2008-08-15T12:18:16-04:00 165013 7312 2008-08-15T12:18:16-04:00 As an artist, I actually don't care either way. If my music is not being shared, then I get to keep the profits. If it is shared, then more people have access to my music... which in the long term could lead to profits. Its a win win. 826 Post 2008-08-15T12:30:01-04:00 165028 2329 2008-08-15T12:30:14-04:00