If, after the death of print, rise of stock, and proliferation of crowd-sourcing sites, one still needed proof that illustration and design is undervalued and under-appreciated, look at all these assholes tripping over themselves for $100 logo work. http://www.fisie.com/jobs/12 Shoot. Me. Now. 2009-07-30T18:08:09-04:00 37 2009-07-30T15:21:51-04:00 true 0 58951 false false 7336 5738 1 2009-11-21T03:30:33-05:00 747 so lame... 58951 Post 2009-07-30T15:23:44-04:00 1818431 35211 2009-07-30T15:23:44-04:00 hay I'm one of those assholes thank you very much. 58951 Post 2009-07-30T15:26:20-04:00 1818481 506 2009-07-30T15:26:20-04:00 <blockquote><cite>quakerninja said:</cite> hay I'm one of those assholes thank you very much.</blockquote> ... So, how about that weather? 58951 Post 2009-07-30T15:26:48-04:00 1818491 5738 2009-07-30T15:26:48-04:00 ha ha... I think angray should stop by and tell them what's up. I haven't seen him all day. Nah I made a bid for a 6x6inch character for a skate deck bid $300 I learned my lesson. But seriously, wtf is up with sites like this there are 100's of em this one has some good projects, but most are lame. I'll see how it goes. 58951 Post 2009-07-30T15:27:47-04:00 1818521 506 2009-07-30T15:30:03-04:00 They emailed me last night asking me to check out their site.. Im guessing they got it from here? 58951 Post 2009-07-30T15:27:49-04:00 1818531 1307 2009-07-30T15:27:49-04:00 I just cancelled my guru.com profile. People want soooooooo much for soooooooooo cheap. Screw that. And the dudes that made the most money have done tons of projects for peanuts. Screw to the that! 58951 Post 2009-07-30T15:28:19-04:00 1818551 13561 2009-07-30T15:28:19-04:00 .... sad, sad sad... that's why people get berserk when they hear a logo costs over 500$..because it's common sense for people with 3 years of experience in advertising to freelance logo designs at 100$. BS! 58951 Post 2009-07-30T15:29:14-04:00 1818581 3643 2009-07-30T15:29:14-04:00 Did you hear the one about $30? 58951 Post 2009-07-30T15:30:25-04:00 1818591 2471 2009-07-30T15:30:25-04:00 also...fisie header design looks way familiar, care to enlighten me? 58951 Post 2009-07-30T15:31:08-04:00 1818601 3643 2009-07-30T15:31:29-04:00 No? 58951 Post 2009-07-30T15:31:09-04:00 1818611 5738 2009-07-30T15:31:09-04:00 i think why people think logos should be cheap is because they are so small in comparison to say a shirt design, in terms of designing, time, etc. but, im sure artists put enough effort into them, and the logo will be used pretty much everywhere that the client wants to. you get a lot more liberties with a logo, as opposed to a shirt design which can usually be used only once. so in my opinion, i wouldn't be too angry if someone charged me $300.00 for a logo. i can use it forever, sure it's smaller but i can use it for as long as i please. 58951 Post 2009-07-30T15:32:37-04:00 1818621 13245 2009-07-30T15:32:37-04:00 Just for you guys I'll make a $1 bid, the catch of course is it's going to take me 3 years. This should be fun. Anything you would like me to add in the description? 58951 Post 2009-07-30T15:33:06-04:00 1818631 506 2009-07-30T15:33:06-04:00 <blockquote><cite>quakerninja said:</cite> Just for you guys I'll make a $1 bid, the catch of course is it's going to take me 3 years. This should be fun. Anything you would like me to add in the description?</blockquote> proficient use of bleeding cowboy and papyrus 58951 Post 2009-07-30T15:33:55-04:00 1818641 3643 2009-07-30T15:33:55-04:00 <blockquote><cite>inkemplete said:</cite> i think why people think logos should be cheap is because they are so small in comparison to say a shirt design, in terms of designing, time, etc. but, im sure artists put enough effort into them, and the logo will be used pretty much everywhere that the client wants to. you get a lot more liberties with a logo, as opposed to a shirt design which can usually be used only once. so in my opinion, i wouldn't be too angry if someone charged me $300.00 for a logo. i can use it forever, sure it's smaller but i can use it for as long as i please.</blockquote> Logo/Identity design usually takes just as much time or more time than a t-shirt design. A lot of thought, research and preparation goes into it, which a lot of people don't realize. Also, a lot of properly priced logos are priced in the thousands. 58951 Post 2009-07-30T15:37:01-04:00 1818681 7196 2009-07-30T15:37:23-04:00 lol 58951 Post 2009-07-30T15:37:57-04:00 1818701 5738 2009-07-30T15:37:57-04:00 Funny you bring this up. I just got an email from them, went to check it out, and totally thought "Oh man, Angray's gonna shit bricks". 58951 Post 2009-07-30T15:39:10-04:00 1818711 1498 2009-07-30T15:39:21-04:00 70% of developing a logo or a corporate identity is research, study and concept. 58951 Post 2009-07-30T15:44:00-04:00 1818751 2471 2009-07-30T15:44:00-04:00 The "No?" above was to Manos, btw, not EZ. 58951 Post 2009-07-30T15:49:43-04:00 1818801 5738 2009-07-30T15:49:43-04:00 Dang. 58951 Post 2009-07-30T15:50:12-04:00 1818811 9179 2009-07-30T15:50:12-04:00 <blockquote><cite>Frenden said:</cite> lol</blockquote> Ditto. 58951 Post 2009-07-30T15:51:12-04:00 1818821 1293 2009-07-30T15:51:12-04:00 Well I can't go any lower then Zero money and zero time, Let's see how this works. Some of those guys are really good. It's a shame is what it is. 58951 Post 2009-07-30T16:01:29-04:00 1818961 506 2009-07-30T16:02:57-04:00 they won't believe you D, should have bid 10 dorra how they are used to do it down at devianTART and linked to some portfolio. bet they would have contacted you:) 58951 Post 2009-07-30T16:04:20-04:00 1819001 3643 2009-07-30T16:04:48-04:00 I love this... Client: Not looking for something very cliche, like a plane. Designer: propeller wing incorporated into the logo would work really well A professional can at least listen to a client gosh The name is flight, as in a modifier for the brand taking off. Not a cartoon airplane. That's why it's a good idea to pay someone that can at least understand what the client is asking for. 58951 Post 2009-07-30T16:08:22-04:00 1819051 506 2009-07-30T16:11:15-04:00 The "lol" was at EZ kun, though. Jeez. Too many posts. 58951 Post 2009-07-30T16:29:24-04:00 1819241 5738 2009-07-30T16:29:24-04:00 <blockquote><cite>Frenden said:</cite> The "lol" was at EZ kun (who is incredibly handsome in my no-homo book), though. Jeez. Too many posts.</blockquote> i think they invented the quote button for this purpose alone. that, and this.. 58951 Post 2009-07-30T16:31:15-04:00 1819291 3643 2009-07-30T16:31:15-04:00 You on the tale end of a creative bender, you seem a little sluggish, that's an observation not an insult. I've been up for a wee to long. 58951 Post 2009-07-30T16:32:05-04:00 1819311 506 2009-07-30T16:32:05-04:00 <blockquote><cite>quakerninja said:</cite> You on the tale end of a creative bender, you seem a little sluggish, that's an observation not an insult. I've been up for a wee to long.</blockquote> Yesterday was rough. Barely any sleep. And what sleep I got was couch-based. 58951 Post 2009-07-30T16:33:37-04:00 1819351 5738 2009-07-30T16:33:37-04:00 bummer, I know the feeling. 58951 Post 2009-07-30T16:36:31-04:00 1819431 506 2009-07-30T16:36:31-04:00 my fucking boiler is costing me a fortune plumbers, thats where the money is 58951 Post 2009-07-30T16:47:17-04:00 1819571 7336 2009-07-30T16:47:17-04:00 No kiddin. 58951 Post 2009-07-30T16:53:57-04:00 1819711 5738 2009-07-30T16:53:57-04:00 maybe my plumber needs a new logo $3500 please 58951 Post 2009-07-30T16:56:29-04:00 1819751 7336 2009-07-30T16:56:29-04:00 Ray...read my last comment. just saying. when i;m that tired i tend to lol from anything. that's the least i can do for you:P 58951 Post 2009-07-30T17:24:03-04:00 1820041 3643 2009-07-30T17:24:03-04:00 lulz 58951 Post 2009-07-30T17:25:39-04:00 1820071 5738 2009-07-30T17:25:39-04:00 I want to punch things... 58951 Post 2009-07-30T17:47:41-04:00 1820331 1567 2009-07-30T17:47:41-04:00 (In response to deleted post about Crowdspring.) Crowdspring makes everyone work and only one person is selected. It is the definition of spec. That is NOT more like it. 58951 Post 2009-07-30T18:01:14-04:00 1820451 5738 2009-07-30T18:06:03-04:00 whoops the search continues. 58951 Post 2009-07-30T18:01:56-04:00 1820471 506 2009-07-30T18:01:56-04:00 maybe my plumber needs some housekeeping done 58951 Post 2009-07-30T18:08:09-04:00 1820531 7336 2009-07-30T18:08:09-04:00