Anyone know the business details with the Affliction Banned MMA event this Saturday?... I can't imagine they have the kind of capital/clout to pull something like trying to take out the UFC. I know they are very popular and expensive shirts, with alot of MMA fighters wearing them....but damn....that is a pretty big jump for a "clothing label" I seen Trump in the ring at the end....is this his venture?...anyone hear if he a partner in this? I ordered it, and it was pretty slow...although the Fedor vs Couture bout would be sweet. 2008-07-21T17:30:43-04:00 38 2008-07-21T09:07:29-04:00 true 0 5360 false false 182 4344 1 2009-11-21T04:50:00-05:00 884 I don't know what the fuck you just said, little kid, but you're special man, you reached out, and you touch a brother's heart. Pee Ess, I like your company's website :) 5360 Post 2008-07-21T09:11:03-04:00 140466 3005 2008-07-21T09:15:10-04:00 eh? 5360 Post 2008-07-21T09:17:33-04:00 140467 4344 2008-07-21T09:17:33-04:00 Sorry Jay and Silent Bob Strike back quote! 5360 Post 2008-07-21T09:19:17-04:00 140468 3005 2008-07-21T09:19:17-04:00 Does anyone know what hes on about? 5360 Post 2008-07-21T09:21:38-04:00 140470 5804 2008-07-21T09:21:38-04:00 haha...sorry too early I guess for the movie reference... I guess no one knows much about the clothing company Affliction or Mixed Martial Arts or the UFC. 5360 Post 2008-07-21T09:25:40-04:00 140477 4344 2008-07-21T09:25:40-04:00 trump was on stern the other day and he said he had a piece in the venture. 5360 Post 2008-07-21T09:27:06-04:00 140481 14 2008-07-21T09:27:06-04:00 I guess according to Wikipedia, Donald Trump is a significant partner in Affliction MMA. So Nevermind.... Answered my own questions. 5360 Post 2008-07-21T09:27:31-04:00 140482 4344 2008-07-21T09:27:31-04:00 affliction signed a deal with the UFC over a year ago... whats the question 5360 Post 2008-07-21T09:27:48-04:00 140483 782 2008-07-21T09:27:48-04:00 Hahah, no worries - I understood the bit about MMA - but only because of "he ain't <b>heavyprints</b> he's my brother". Sorry another random reference. Didn't get the rest - someone here will - I am just ignorant to this world! 5360 Post 2008-07-21T09:28:43-04:00 140484 3005 2008-07-21T09:28:43-04:00 <blockquote><cite>kyleisez said:</cite> affliction signed a deal with the UFC over a year ago... whats the question</blockquote> Actually I believe they are competitors now. 5360 Post 2008-07-21T09:30:52-04:00 140485 4344 2008-07-21T09:30:52-04:00 <blockquote><cite>Ameeee said:</cite> I don't know what the fuck you just said, little kid, but you're special man, you reached out, and you touch a brother's heart. </blockquote> bahaha tracy morgan!!! 5360 Post 2008-07-21T09:37:36-04:00 140493 3491 2008-07-21T09:37:36-04:00 I'm not sure about the whole deal either. Seemed sketchy to me. I watched it at Buffalo Wild Wings, and it was ok. So yea. Sorry I don't have anything more than my confused opinion. P.s. what's gonna be next??? If we see Tapout come out and make their own called like "Tapout Bouts" we'll know something's up. haha 5360 Post 2008-07-21T09:38:50-04:00 140495 4506 2008-07-21T09:38:50-04:00 <blockquote><cite>benaiahco said:</cite> I'm not sure about the whole deal either. Seemed sketchy to me. I watched it at Buffalo Wild Wings, and it was ok. So yea. Sorry I don't have anything more than my confused opinion. P.s. what's gonna be next??? If we see Tapout come out and make their own called like "Tapout Bouts" we'll know something's up. haha</blockquote> mmmm Spicy Garlic...and Mango Habenero wings. Pretty interesting a Clothing Co can play hardball with the UFC, just 3 years after it's creation. it's pretty heated obviously...since UFC put up their Free PPV on Spike to counter the Affliction Debut. 5360 Post 2008-07-21T09:45:17-04:00 140503 4344 2008-07-21T09:45:17-04:00 I don't know all the full details but basically Affliction and Dana White had a falling out. Thats why they added the "banned" to the title. Alot of previous UFC fighters are leaving when their contract ends (Tim Silvia) because they feel they aren't being payed enough or unequally, etc... 5360 Post 2008-07-21T09:49:32-04:00 140505 1226 2008-07-21T09:49:32-04:00 There was an article about UFC vs. Afflication in Saturday's Los Angeles times. Supposedly there is a TON of money behind the Affliction thing... Trump being one of the main investors. All these MMA things just need to all get together. It's too splintered the way it is and the quality of each is hurting the overall. 5360 Post 2008-07-21T11:11:33-04:00 140530 2973 2008-07-21T11:11:33-04:00 Yeah - It's turning into boxing...slowly. 5360 Post 2008-07-21T11:24:20-04:00 140535 4344 2008-07-21T11:24:20-04:00 I think that UFC got too big, too fast. Way too many sponsors and corporate stuff got thrown in the mix too quick. And I type this as I'm working on their new line of retail rash guards.... 5360 Post 2008-07-21T11:29:40-04:00 140536 1226 2008-07-21T11:29:40-04:00 <blockquote><cite>ChristianTW said:</cite> All these MMA things just need to all get together. It's too splintered the way it is and the quality of each is hurting the overall.</blockquote> Not even true, thank you competing organizations for giving me numerous free fights on spike tv like saturday's ufc fight. Also thank you alternative fight league's like affliction for brining back some of my favorite fighters to the U.S. like fedor and josh barnett who didn't want to contract with the ufc. The ufc unlike boxing contracts fighters and gives them a salary for the year(s). This discouraged and kept away a lot of japan's "pride" fighters who didn't want to get held down with a contract with ufc. Having these other league's allows them the opportunity to get back into the fight spotlight and provide good mma entertainment. Although ufc is awesome I don't want them to hold a monopoly on the fight market because it was missing a lot of my favorite fighters. 5360 Post 2008-07-21T11:34:10-04:00 140539 182 2008-07-21T11:34:10-04:00 <blockquote><cite>Eternyl said:</cite> Yeah - It's turning into boxing...slowly.</blockquote> I'm not sure how it's turning into boxing? 5360 Post 2008-07-21T11:35:30-04:00 140540 182 2008-07-21T11:35:30-04:00 <blockquote><cite>faithbydesign said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>Eternyl said:</cite> Yeah - It's turning into boxing...slowly.</blockquote> I'm not sure how it's turning into boxing?</blockquote> Growing Politics, and sooo many belts & champions 5360 Post 2008-07-21T11:45:17-04:00 140548 4344 2008-07-21T11:45:17-04:00 <blockquote><cite>tylerd1143 said:</cite> I think that UFC got too big, too fast. Way too many sponsors and corporate stuff got thrown in the mix too quick. And I type this as I'm working on their new line of retail rash guards....</blockquote> Personally I think it's Dana White....I just seems like he's gotten too Greedy...and decided it's cheaper to get new fighters through a reality show, than to pay big bucks to retain veteran fighters. They have been corporate-ized lately...but they've been around since 93...up until Spike / Harley / Bud...their biggest sponsor was Mickey's or sumthin. 5360 Post 2008-07-21T11:48:51-04:00 140549 4344 2008-07-21T11:48:51-04:00 <blockquote><cite>Eternyl said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>tylerd1143 said:</cite> I think that UFC got too big, too fast. Way too many sponsors and corporate stuff got thrown in the mix too quick. And I type this as I'm working on their new line of retail rash guards....</blockquote> Personally I think it's Dana White....I just seems like he's gotten too Greedy...and decided it's cheaper to get new fighters through a reality show, than to pay big bucks to retain veteran fighters. They have been corporate-ized lately...but they've been around since 93...up until Spike / Harley / Bud...their biggest sponsor was Mickey's or sumthin.</blockquote> That may be somewhat true but I see it in a lot of the fighters too. I mean money is money but I saw two different fighters with the Bad Boy logo tattooed on their ribs. I highly doubt that was a coincidence. ha 5360 Post 2008-07-21T11:51:41-04:00 140551 1226 2008-07-21T11:51:41-04:00 <blockquote><cite>Eternyl said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>faithbydesign said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>Eternyl said:</cite> Yeah - It's turning into boxing...slowly.</blockquote> I'm not sure how it's turning into boxing?</blockquote> Growing Politics, and sooo many belts & champions</blockquote> Up until Saturday there were only two official full MMA organizations that held belts and titles. And, that's only one belt per weight class. Now add affliction and that's three. Not too hard to keep track of. I feel like competing organizations is a good thing. Like i said free fights that would have normally been pay-per-view and it allows "veteran" fighters to still fight since not all of them want to be tied down to a contract with the ufc. 5360 Post 2008-07-21T11:53:36-04:00 140554 182 2008-07-21T11:53:36-04:00 the best is the Condom Depot logo on the back of the shorts lately. Seriously is that really the best place for that logo? 5360 Post 2008-07-21T11:55:24-04:00 140556 4344 2008-07-21T11:55:24-04:00 <blockquote><cite>Eternyl said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>tylerd1143 said:</cite> I think that UFC got too big, too fast. Way too many sponsors and corporate stuff got thrown in the mix too quick. And I type this as I'm working on their new line of retail rash guards....</blockquote> Personally I think it's Dana White....I just seems like he's gotten too Greedy...and decided it's cheaper to get new fighters through a reality show, than to pay big bucks to retain veteran fighters. </blockquote> Well the "cheap way" of getting new fighters (which i find entertaining because these guys work hard) worked. Forrest Griffin who was a nobody before TUF 1 beat Rampage jackson who was not only the UFC world champion, but was a champion at one point in pride too. So their "cheap way" bred a world champion who's had so many good fights with world class fighters. 5360 Post 2008-07-21T11:56:34-04:00 140557 182 2008-07-21T11:56:52-04:00 <blockquote><cite>faithbydesign said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>Eternyl said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>tylerd1143 said:</cite> I think that UFC got too big, too fast. Way too many sponsors and corporate stuff got thrown in the mix too quick. And I type this as I'm working on their new line of retail rash guards....</blockquote> Personally I think it's Dana White....I just seems like he's gotten too Greedy...and decided it's cheaper to get new fighters through a reality show, than to pay big bucks to retain veteran fighters. </blockquote> Well the "cheap way" of getting new fighters (which i find entertaining because these guys work hard) worked. Forrest Griffin who was a nobody before TUF 1 beat Rampage jackson who was not only the UFC world champion, but was a champion at one point in pride too. So their "cheap way" bred a world champion who's had so many good fights with world class fighters.</blockquote> Exactly...good point....which is probably why, Dana prefers that route. What is the winning sum for the reality show?....a six figure contract?...that's probably $100,000....for a year? I know Affliction just paid alot more for 1 fight(Fedor is rumored to be making more than $1 million guaranteed and Sylvia is set to pocket at least $800,000). 5360 Post 2008-07-21T12:05:45-04:00 140562 4344 2008-07-21T12:05:45-04:00 <blockquote><cite>Eternyl said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>faithbydesign said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>Eternyl said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>tylerd1143 said:</cite> I think that UFC got too big, too fast. Way too many sponsors and corporate stuff got thrown in the mix too quick. And I type this as I'm working on their new line of retail rash guards....</blockquote> Personally I think it's Dana White....I just seems like he's gotten too Greedy...and decided it's cheaper to get new fighters through a reality show, than to pay big bucks to retain veteran fighters. </blockquote> Well the "cheap way" of getting new fighters (which i find entertaining because these guys work hard) worked. Forrest Griffin who was a nobody before TUF 1 beat Rampage jackson who was not only the UFC world champion, but was a champion at one point in pride too. So their "cheap way" bred a world champion who's had so many good fights with world class fighters.</blockquote> Exactly...good point....which is probably why, Dana prefers that route. What is the winning sum for the reality show?....a six figure contract?...that's probably $100,000....for a year? I know Affliction just paid alot more for 1 fight(Fedor is rumored to be making more than $1 million guaranteed and Sylvia is set to pocket at least $800,000).</blockquote> 100k as a brand new fighter is not bad money at all. They get tested and it's been three years at least since griffin won TUF. He gets paid a lot more now. I think of it like skateboarders, they make a little on skateboarding contracts but MILLIONS off of endorsements. This is a fast growing market and the opportunity for them to make huge piles of money is there. They aren't being cheated. 5360 Post 2008-07-21T12:15:44-04:00 140569 182 2008-07-21T12:15:44-04:00 I wonder how much Harley paid to put that Bar & Shield logo in the middle of the ring?...the past few PPV's Or Bud Light in this last Spike Event? those are some serious sponsors. to say the least it'll be interesting how long they retain Forrest, or even Rampage now. or if affliction is going to pursue all of the big names. 5360 Post 2008-07-21T12:25:49-04:00 140574 4344 2008-07-21T12:25:49-04:00 oh mannnn, i need to sit back with a huge glass of creatine and see how all this drama unfolds i think affliction is some of the ugliest apparel, and i rarely see anyone wearing it who is not a chache. but really though, this is really interesting, i had no idea they were this huge. i had a friend who ditched out on college, aspiring to be in the UFC. haha 5360 Post 2008-07-21T12:29:56-04:00 140576 5431 2008-07-21T12:37:27-04:00 <blockquote><cite>discordantart said:</cite> oh mannnn, i need sit back with a huge glass of creatine and see how all this drama unfolds i think affliction is some of the ugliest apparel, and i rarely see anyone wearing it who is not a chache. but really though, this is really interesting, i had no idea they were this huge. i had a friend who ditched out on college, aspiring to be in the UFC. haha</blockquote> I think affliction designs were very trend-setting and are still pretty cool. They are elaborate and whoever does those designs is talented. However, im not paying that much for a shirt, and I don't want to be lumped with the people who wear them. Besides the fighters, I can't stand the people who wear them. Douche-bag bro's that spend way too much time at frat parties, the gym and the desert. 5360 Post 2008-07-21T12:34:21-04:00 140579 182 2008-07-21T12:35:51-04:00 i'll give them that for sure! the illustrations are beatifuuuullllly done for what they are but i just wish they weren't always tarnished by placement, or some hideously cheesy old english-esque font, and lame distressing. i just have a huge pet-peeve when it comes to the department-store "aggressive/alternative" art exploitation. 5360 Post 2008-07-21T12:44:16-04:00 140589 5431 2008-07-21T12:45:27-04:00 Man, I missed alot. Affliction is expensive, I can't afford it, but I like their designs alot. Anybody want to start an emptees MMA match..... haha 5360 Post 2008-07-21T12:45:07-04:00 140590 4506 2008-07-21T12:45:07-04:00 <blockquote><cite>benaiahco said:</cite> Man, I missed alot. Affliction is expensive, I can't afford it, but I like their designs alot. Anybody want to start an emptees MMA match..... haha</blockquote> HAHA i already challenged heavyprints when we meet. He recently started mma and i've been doing it for a while. We're not in the same weight class but it sure would be fun. 5360 Post 2008-07-21T12:55:10-04:00 140599 182 2008-07-21T12:55:10-04:00 I agreed to let him punch me in the face while I ran away screaming like a girl. 5360 Post 2008-07-21T13:47:49-04:00 140643 997 2008-07-21T13:47:49-04:00 2 guys at my job both train in MMA and I'm hosting a fight for them in my front yard. hahaha. August 2nd is the blood bath. 5360 Post 2008-07-21T13:49:33-04:00 140646 4506 2008-07-21T13:49:33-04:00 back to whoever said the UFC grew too fast, i don't think it grew too fast. It still has a lot of growing to do, same with every all the mma organizations WEC, Elite XC, Affliction,etc. The average fan doesn't really know what mma is and mma doesn't have a face. Unless you're a fan you really wouldn't know about Royce Gracie or B.J. Penn, Matt Hughes, Urijah Faber, etc. Slowly MMA will have someone in the spotlight...that's good. Rampage Jackson would've been great to promote, but now he lost and plus got arrested twice last week. Chuck The Iceman Lidell is good to promote, just sucks that he had some recent losses. If someone ever mentions Kimbo, than they don't know what they are talking about. He has a long way to go and the good fighters need to be shown to the public more. Anyone know if the fight of Fedor and Slyvia is still online. I totally forgot about both fights this Saturday. I'm a fan of Affliction, but since I went to a club one night and saw everyone rocking it and they were everyone's favorite, guidos, I was so turned off by wearing it. I love good illustrations, but hey Affliction knows how to get people to buy. They had a couple investors, besides Trump. 5360 Post 2008-07-21T16:35:29-04:00 140785 5248 2008-07-21T16:35:29-04:00 <blockquote><cite>JoeBaronDesign said:</cite> Anyone know if the fight of Fedor and Slyvia is still online. I totally forgot about both fights this Saturday. I'm a fan of Affliction, but since I went to a club one night and saw everyone rocking it and they were everyone's favorite, guidos, I was so turned off by wearing it. I love good illustrations, but hey Affliction knows how to get people to buy. They had a couple investors, besides Trump.</blockquote> ha...so true....the bad side of success. Don't know if it's online, but you didn't miss much. 5360 Post 2008-07-21T17:05:46-04:00 140803 4344 2008-07-21T17:05:46-04:00 http://mixedmartialartvideos.com/ The fights on there, scroll down. 5360 Post 2008-07-21T17:30:43-04:00 140837 182 2008-07-21T17:39:25-04:00