O.K ive never really been bothered by this until my last post, it seems that this website is becoming more and more of a popularity compition, if you don't already have a name for yourself you don't get liked on here etc, my last design I've poured my heart and soul into it and I really did expect more than just "quaker and Doydok" hearting it, I could understand if it was really bad but this design is not far from anything else out there that gets about 50 hearts. so am I being a whiney cunt, or am I actually speaking some sense? 2009-07-08T01:00:10-04:00 74 2009-07-03T07:02:42-04:00 48431 false false 7920 14151 1 2009-11-08T04:16:25-05:00 1321 If your work was truly of a standard like some of the work that gets 50 loves or more, you'd be getting the same amount. Also, with the tee designs you've submitted on here, they are many different styles. No-one would be able to look at some of your designs and go "Yep, that's' definitely a JoeWSE piece". So trying to define more of a path to go down style-wise would maybe help. Sometimes being a jack of all trades is alright, but being a master of one or two can usually be more helpful. 48431 Post 2009-07-03T07:07:50-04:00 1448231 6884 2009-07-03T07:08:19-04:00 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Shk8HawnCTs 48431 Post 2009-07-03T07:16:01-04:00 1448281 2802 2009-07-03T07:16:01-04:00 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiRxkFWb_3o No good reason for posting, apart from maybe the first line.... 48431 Post 2009-07-03T07:21:10-04:00 1448351 6884 2009-07-03T07:25:00-04:00 haha yeh i understand it a bit more now man (Y) iots jus frustrating but i dont agree that if you work at the same standard that you'll get hearts, o well, jus keep tryin i guess :) cheers anywayz 48431 Post 2009-07-03T07:36:52-04:00 1448421 14151 2009-07-03T07:36:52-04:00 <blockquote><cite>JoeWSE said:</cite> haha yeh i understand it a bit more now man (Y) iots jus frustrating but i dont agree that if you work at the same standard that you'll get hearts, o well, jus keep tryin i guess :) cheers anywayz</blockquote> You will. The work is just one part of it though. As an artist you have to network, being active in a community like this helps. You have to market yourself and treat yourself as a brand. A brand has an image/corporate identity, and an artists needs one too. 48431 Post 2009-07-03T07:58:58-04:00 1448541 6884 2009-07-03T07:58:58-04:00 The only love you need is for yourself mister. You can do it. 48431 Post 2009-07-03T08:15:32-04:00 1448601 506 2009-07-03T08:15:32-04:00 Hearts/loves will come, just keep doing designs, don't worry about it. 48431 Post 2009-07-03T08:22:19-04:00 1448621 5167 2009-07-03T08:22:19-04:00 Well, my first guess on why it doesn't have 50 loves is because it isn't that great, in my opinion. Also, this isn't a contest site, and loves don't even matter. 48431 Post 2009-07-03T09:33:00-04:00 1449351 7196 2009-07-03T09:33:00-04:00 once you get on the front page hearts will come much faster. This community has a pretty outspoken taste and needs some time to adjust to new stuff. And be honest to yourself, it's ok but can you honest say it's as good as the new ez designs ? Just my opinion and don't look at others, do what you love and love will come to you. 48431 Post 2009-07-03T09:42:44-04:00 1449521 12033 2009-07-03T09:42:44-04:00 Instead of asking why you're not the prettiest girl in school why don't you ask for, you know, advice and criticism on your designs? 48431 Post 2009-07-03T11:21:17-04:00 1450481 2712 2009-07-03T11:21:17-04:00 the point is your design wasnt so great to deserve a place in the frontpage, no offense. still even you beat mumford with your design, he will get more love than you because he is more popular. more people check his page everyday than yours.so keep working 48431 Post 2009-07-03T11:49:34-04:00 1450791 21801 2009-07-03T11:49:34-04:00 you're being a whiney cunt. 48431 Post 2009-07-03T11:53:01-04:00 1450831 13245 2009-07-03T11:53:01-04:00 <blockquote><cite>xul1349 said:</cite> the point is your design wasnt so great to deserve a place in the frontpage, no offense. still even you beat mumford with your design, he will get more love than you because he is more popular. more people check his page everyday than yours.so keep working</blockquote> Mumford became popular because of his awesome artworks. So keep drawing and stop being a "whiney cunt" if you wanna beat Mumford 48431 Post 2009-07-03T12:00:39-04:00 1450921 4552 2009-07-03T12:00:39-04:00 what's cool about all the people that do well is that they don't complain when they don't do well. 48431 Post 2009-07-03T12:04:58-04:00 1450981 67 2009-07-03T12:04:58-04:00 Your lineart is static. This is indicative of TMAINEEG. It's a pervasive disease that typically effects new clothing designers. More info: http://wikipedia.com/too-much-adobe-illustrator-not-enough-elbow-grease.php 48431 Post 2009-07-03T12:30:21-04:00 1451231 5738 2009-07-03T12:30:21-04:00 It's a case of not understanding enough about what makes good art to realize what keeps your art from being on the level of those people you consider "popular." Generally as I draw more I begin to ask myself more questions about "why" I do things, and as I look at better artists artwork, I realize that they have been asking that question of themselves for a long time. The more I learn, the more I understand WHY it's good and not just THAT it's good. All in the details. 48431 Post 2009-07-03T12:45:36-04:00 1451361 997 2009-07-03T12:45:47-04:00 its not tht i crave for main page everyone, i just thought that some designs would have gone down better, i kno everyone here now thinks im a whiny biatch, but i've already taken advice from people :p either way thanks for everyones criticism and comment on here, whether its helpful or not, appreciate it, peace out i will aim to create better designs and hope that peopel will appreciate my style sooner or later (Y) safe 48431 Post 2009-07-03T12:46:32-04:00 1451371 14151 2009-07-03T12:46:32-04:00 the shitty part is if the only people who loved your design were quakerninja and doydok, that really means you zero loves because those bastards love anything 48431 Post 2009-07-03T12:54:47-04:00 1451451 1106 2009-07-03T12:54:47-04:00 Some of the popular people you spoke of, commented on this post, so maybe take the time to look at thier work and contact to see if you can get some advice. But like Jayna said, asking why you don't get loves is the wrong approach. If you took a step back, I bet your answer would lie in your designs or artwork. 48431 Post 2009-07-03T12:55:11-04:00 1451461 5341 2009-07-03T12:55:11-04:00 <blockquote><cite>skull with hair said:</cite> the shitty part is if the only people who loved your design were quakerninja and doydok, that really means you zero loves because those bastards love anything</blockquote> true, i subtract 1 love from everything i have because of quaker. 48431 Post 2009-07-03T12:57:22-04:00 1451481 8975 2009-07-03T12:57:22-04:00 Sounds to me like your trying to create designs that everyone likes instead of just focusing on your own skills and integrity. If that's the case your aiming for nothing. You've also only been a member for 2 months so that may account for you not yet getting emptees. You've also got a long way to go with your art (just like me). 48431 Post 2009-07-03T13:05:37-04:00 1451601 8881 2009-07-03T13:06:09-04:00 We ALL got a long way to go. Constantly evolve, don't be afraid to take risks, fuck convention, especially your own. 48431 Post 2009-07-03T13:17:03-04:00 1451661 5738 2009-07-03T13:17:03-04:00 There are going to be people who don't like every design you've done. They might not even like any of them. But thats how it is with everyone. Just keep practicing and listening to critiques, yeah it might hurt your feelings cause they say they don't like it, but you'll learn from your mistakes and in turn become a better artist. 48431 Post 2009-07-03T13:29:55-04:00 1451851 26981 2009-07-03T13:29:55-04:00 if you want to make art a career you better start getting used to rejection 48431 Post 2009-07-03T14:12:04-04:00 1452371 1146 2009-07-03T14:12:04-04:00 yeah and if you want to do art for a living you should get used to people not liking your stuff 48431 Post 2009-07-03T14:19:18-04:00 1452421 1106 2009-07-03T14:19:18-04:00 Also, anal rape by clients. It's a requisite. 48431 Post 2009-07-03T14:20:04-04:00 1452451 5738 2009-07-03T14:20:04-04:00 <blockquote><cite>Ray Frenden said:</cite> Also, anal rape by clients. It's a requisite.</blockquote> JUST DRAW SOME GODDAMN SHIRTS 48431 Post 2009-07-03T14:20:45-04:00 1452471 11937 2009-07-03T14:20:45-04:00 JUST DRAW SOME... oh. Nevermind. 48431 Post 2009-07-03T14:24:58-04:00 1452491 5738 2009-07-03T14:24:58-04:00 I think I'm still mostly unknown here and yet I've got several 50+ loves designs (one over 70, I think), and I don't do gore, and I don't do pop culture. So even though I'm not popular nor I work with popular themes I still manage to get decent loves. Also, your designs are really weak, it seems that whatever little idea you have you quickly draw and throw on a shirt and post here in hopes for loves and a sale. Instead you should be practicing more, getting your basics right and posting something truly worth looking at and selling (unless it's for critique). 48431 Post 2009-07-03T14:31:51-04:00 1452581 9179 2009-07-03T14:32:05-04:00 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVVyo5JhMEY 48431 Post 2009-07-03T14:37:21-04:00 1452661 506 2009-07-03T14:37:21-04:00 <blockquote><cite>againstbound said:</cite> I think I'm still mostly unknown here and yet I've got several 50+ loves designs (one over 70, I think), and I don't do gore, and I don't do pop culture. So even though I'm not popular nor I work with popular themes I still manage to get decent loves. Also, your designs are really weak, it seems that whatever little idea you have you quickly draw and throw on a shirt and post here in hopes for loves and a sale. Instead you should be practicing more, getting your basics right and posting something truly worth looking at and selling (unless it's for critique).</blockquote> OHHH YOU GOT SERVED!! <img src="http://content.ytmnd.com/content/3/9/4/39478a7defab00dd04d305be0fb06855.gif" /><img src="http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z166/Vscel4/SwimCon.gif" /> <img src="http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u72/gufu1992/av-320.gif" /> 48431 Post 2009-07-03T14:37:58-04:00 1452671 1106 2009-07-03T14:37:58-04:00 Hahaha, well maybe I was a bit blunt but I think everything I said was true and not ill intended. 48431 Post 2009-07-03T14:41:53-04:00 1452771 9179 2009-07-03T14:41:53-04:00 You catch more flies with honey than you do with whining. 48431 Post 2009-07-03T14:53:35-04:00 1452911 1027 2009-07-03T14:53:35-04:00 if you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen. ya diggity? and it's only a matter of time before someone reproduces one of your designs in a matter of seconds. practice practice practice. 48431 Post 2009-07-03T16:35:02-04:00 1454101 13245 2009-07-03T16:35:48-04:00 There's an interesting comment riiight in the beginning about having a personal style. It IS my observation that the top dudes have a specific "style", but I find it hard to stick to any single style, cos different subject matters DEMAND different treatment, in my design sensibility... Does that mean I'm kicking myself in the ass and should rather just find one style and work it to death? 48431 Post 2009-07-03T16:57:38-04:00 1454311 10580 2009-07-03T16:57:38-04:00 Do what you think is cool and hopefully other people will dig it. Also, draw zombie 80's pop culture icons using lots of neon colors. 48431 Post 2009-07-03T17:02:10-04:00 1454381 1368 2009-07-03T17:02:10-04:00 I TOTALLY know what your saying! Lyke omg! 48431 Post 2009-07-03T17:09:41-04:00 1454481 2329 2009-07-03T17:09:41-04:00 I've seen brand new people come in and just rock emptees socks off. Nicolo Nimor, comes to mind.... I remember when he first came around and he blew away everybody. There are plenty of others. Now, I'll give you that if you are popular and have gained a fan base, you can produce some really really shitty pieces and you'll still get a ton of love. I wont mention any names;0) 48431 Post 2009-07-03T17:14:52-04:00 1454501 4725 2009-07-03T17:14:52-04:00 loves on emptees don't pay bills...and neither do weak designs. theres a reason you don't have lots of loves dude. sorry to be blunt but it doesn't look like you put a lot of time or thought into your designs. 48431 Post 2009-07-03T17:20:19-04:00 1454511 1541 2009-07-03T17:20:19-04:00 <blockquote><cite>Sol Amstutz said:</cite> loves on emptees don't pay bills...and neither do weak designs. theres a reason you don't have lots of loves dude. sorry to be blunt but it doesn't look like you put a lot of time or thought into your designs.</blockquote> And try actually making a logo... instead of using a pre-made, waaaay overused, style font. 48431 Post 2009-07-03T17:25:56-04:00 1454551 2329 2009-07-03T17:25:56-04:00 don't worry just keep drawing and interact with some members and things should get better. people here aren't too fond of all the new designers/members popping out of nowhere so its a little understandable if they seem harsh at first. maybe ask for some advice, try to learn from them yet keep your own personal style. it'll take time. its tough love. 48431 Post 2009-07-03T17:34:49-04:00 1454621 1834 2009-07-03T17:34:49-04:00 It really has less to do with not liking people who come in, and more about people who expect to be praised. We'll praise you when you praise is due. 48431 Post 2009-07-03T17:39:09-04:00 1454681 2329 2009-07-03T17:39:09-04:00 <blockquote><cite>RustyEight said:</cite> It really has less to do with not liking people who come in, and more about people who expect to be praised. We'll praise you when you praise is due.</blockquote> mm i forgot to add that in but yes thats what i was going for lol. 48431 Post 2009-07-03T17:40:46-04:00 1454711 1834 2009-07-03T17:40:46-04:00 Why does this thread still exist? 48431 Post 2009-07-03T17:43:42-04:00 1454721 1056 2009-07-03T17:43:42-04:00 keep doing what YOU love i dont get a large amount of loves but it doesn't bother me. i just enjoy doing it and you will hofully get better and learn from every new design 48431 Post 2009-07-03T17:43:42-04:00 1454731 13581 2009-07-03T17:43:42-04:00 orite then calm down everyone already said i got the point, spur of moment posting this, be fucking r8, i'll keep on going so there. fuck me if i knew 1 fucking post will pull this many people... christ 48431 Post 2009-07-03T18:20:37-04:00 1455201 14151 2009-07-03T18:20:37-04:00 <blockquote><cite>JoeWSE said:</cite> orite then calm down everyone already said i got the point, spur of moment posting this, be fucking r8, i'll keep on going so there. fuck me if i knew 1 fucking post will pull this many people... christ</blockquote> Stop complaining 48431 Post 2009-07-03T18:21:53-04:00 1455221 12132 2009-07-03T18:21:53-04:00 shut up 48431 Post 2009-07-03T18:22:21-04:00 1455241 14151 2009-07-03T18:22:21-04:00 Ouch 48431 Post 2009-07-03T18:23:44-04:00 1455261 12132 2009-07-03T18:23:53-04:00 (Y) love ya rele 48431 Post 2009-07-03T18:25:07-04:00 1455271 14151 2009-07-03T18:25:07-04:00 Emotions are funny 48431 Post 2009-07-03T18:26:08-04:00 1455291 2329 2009-07-03T18:26:08-04:00 <blockquote><cite>RustyEight said:</cite> Emotions are funny</blockquote> <img src="http://universalheretic.files.wordpress.com/2009/04/laughing-jesus.jpg"> 48431 Post 2009-07-03T18:28:26-04:00 1455361 12132 2009-07-03T18:28:26-04:00 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KYjXUPu88o 48431 Post 2009-07-03T18:39:51-04:00 1455661 997 2009-07-03T18:39:51-04:00 thank you for bringing back the slow jerk 48431 Post 2009-07-03T18:43:17-04:00 1455741 2712 2009-07-03T18:43:17-04:00 you get popular on a tee designing site by designing good tees bro. 48431 Post 2009-07-03T19:46:56-04:00 1456521 7945 2009-07-03T19:46:56-04:00 If I don't get 300 loves on all my shirts in the next hour, I'm going to kill a kitten with forceps. 48431 Post 2009-07-03T19:46:57-04:00 1456531 5738 2009-07-03T19:46:57-04:00 videotape it 48431 Post 2009-07-03T19:47:28-04:00 1456551 7945 2009-07-03T19:47:28-04:00 Ex vegan, here. Ain't gonna happen. But still. 48431 Post 2009-07-03T19:51:48-04:00 1456621 5738 2009-07-03T19:51:48-04:00 <blockquote><cite>Ray Frenden said:</cite> If I don't get 300 loves on all my shirts in the next hour, I'm going to kill a kitten with forceps.</blockquote> Genius 48431 Post 2009-07-03T19:53:14-04:00 1456641 2329 2009-07-03T19:53:14-04:00 i hear violins, no really im listening to this http://www.myspace.com/fourplaystringquartet killing in the name of with violins!! 48431 Post 2009-07-03T20:59:57-04:00 1457291 3804 2009-07-03T20:59:57-04:00 theres not much you can do it about the popularity thing on here. just how it is but the artists that do deserve the recognition for their body of excellent work do get it. i do understand though being one of the mostly ignored brands on the site, but when people want belts from me its magically all love. its a message board/ forum, so it goes. 48431 Post 2009-07-03T21:25:36-04:00 1457461 1271 2009-07-03T21:25:36-04:00 <blockquote><cite>{miles to go} said:</cite> but when people want belts from me its magically all love.</blockquote> Who wants belts from you? Do you make belts? 48431 Post 2009-07-06T18:23:43-04:00 1486221 10580 2009-07-06T18:23:43-04:00 I am unpopular to the point that people shit in my drinks. Seriously tho the popularity thing is strange. Some Tees get loves based on the artist rather than the work and thats fine I suppose. What I like is that people either love or fucking hate my work. That I like. A lot. 48431 Post 2009-07-06T18:28:14-04:00 1486301 2991 2009-07-06T18:28:27-04:00 I haven't heard the word "popular" since 8th grade. 48431 Post 2009-07-06T18:39:37-04:00 1486491 3501 2009-07-06T18:39:37-04:00 <blockquote><cite>againstbound said:</cite> I think I'm still mostly unknown here and yet I've got several 50+ loves designs (one over 70, I think), and I don't do gore, and I don't do pop culture. So even though I'm not popular nor I work with popular themes I still manage to get decent loves. Also, your designs are really weak, it seems that whatever little idea you have you quickly draw and throw on a shirt and post here in hopes for loves and a sale. Instead you should be practicing more, getting your basics right and posting something truly worth looking at and selling (unless it's for critique).</blockquote> your stuff is great, fact! 48431 Post 2009-07-06T20:02:32-04:00 1487381 9930 2009-07-06T20:02:32-04:00 yes this place is a popularity contest...so is life 48431 Post 2009-07-06T20:27:17-04:00 1487591 6102 2009-07-06T20:27:17-04:00 <img src="http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt92/justbonesbrooke/adaytoremember-havefaithinmeweighto.jpg" /> 48431 Post 2009-07-06T20:30:10-04:00 1487611 14 2009-07-06T20:30:10-04:00 i hate popular kids.... well i hate 'bros' 48431 Post 2009-07-06T20:36:19-04:00 1487631 2870 2009-07-06T20:36:19-04:00 <blockquote><cite>dobi said:</cite> <img src="http://i601.photobucket.com/albums/tt92/justbonesbrooke/adaytoremember-havefaithinmeweighto.jpg" /></blockquote> "my gym has a no shoes policy as well" sooo many lolz 48431 Post 2009-07-06T21:18:45-04:00 1488141 1146 2009-07-06T21:18:45-04:00 I guess we all gotta have some bumpy start don't we? 48431 Post 2009-07-07T21:07:28-04:00 1503581 10367 2009-07-07T21:07:28-04:00 <blockquote><cite>Tuism said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>{miles to go} said:</cite> but when people want belts from me its magically all love.</blockquote> Who wants belts from you? Do you make belts?</blockquote> yes, i make belts http://www.milestogobelts.com 48431 Post 2009-07-08T00:42:18-04:00 1505531 1271 2009-07-08T00:42:18-04:00 I would like one popular please, extra pickle hold the mayo's 48431 Post 2009-07-08T00:45:58-04:00 1505551 506 2009-07-08T00:45:58-04:00 <blockquote><cite>{miles to go} said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>Tuism said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>{miles to go} said:</cite> but when people want belts from me its magically all love.</blockquote> Who wants belts from you? Do you make belts?</blockquote> yes, i make belts http://www.milestogobelts.com</blockquote> and a damn fine job you do :) 48431 Post 2009-07-08T00:50:17-04:00 1505571 32631 2009-07-08T00:50:17-04:00 <img src="http://i31.tinypic.com/2dvmx3n.jpg" /> 48431 Post 2009-07-08T01:00:10-04:00 1505631 7920 2009-07-08T01:00:10-04:00