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  <body>http://files.getdropbox.com/u/88157/Bandname%20Template.zip

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  <title>Bandname Template ready for fucking download</title>
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      <body>that is nice of you sir</body>
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      <body>Awesome!
Frenden for president</body>
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      <body>Such a good idea. Make sure you include a text file named "frenden" in the .zip or something. It'll definitely get passed around a bunch.</body>
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      <body>&lt;img src="http://www.beyondhollywood.com/stillsx/2007/09/ian-mcshane-deadwood-2.jpg" /&gt;

filthy cocksuckers </body>
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      <body>&lt;a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/rayfrenden/3676933206/" title="Picture 52 by Ray Frenden, on Flickr"&gt;&lt;img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3546/3676933206_6f25d6f2b8.jpg" width="336" height="500" alt="Picture 52" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</body>
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      <body>You fucking RULE!

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      <body>i back the hidden layer's message.
welcome...to the real world:)</body>
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      <body>Ray, you are raging lately...and I like it.
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      <body>Motherfukinshitsonofabitch hell yeah! </body>
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      <body>Thanks, guys.

Sol, I'm just sorta tired of being prim and proper for fear of how it may impact my career. Screw it. This is me, warts and all.</body>
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      <body>you should have made this post under ANGRAY lol</body>
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      <body>Much like '90s, brainy hulk, I have merged the two personalities into one.

SMART HULK SMASH.</body>
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Callum_Green said:&lt;/cite&gt; Awesome!
Frenden for president&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I'd vote... when I turn 18.</body>
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      <body>yeah! super good idea!</body>
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Ray Frenden said:&lt;/cite&gt; Much like '90s, brainy hulk, I have merged the two personalities into one.

SMART HULK SMASH.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

do you remember Mr. Fixit?! </body>
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      <body>Absolutely. Fixit rocked.</body>
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      <body>ill never use these, but thats wayyy nice of you.

so when does someone start 'bandname clothing'?</body>
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      <body>&lt;a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/rayfrenden/3676311197/" title="Picture 54 by Ray Frenden, on Flickr"&gt;&lt;img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2466/3676311197_138af2257d.jpg" width="500" height="310" alt="Picture 54" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</body>
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      <body>you are on fire sir!</body>
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      <body>&lt;a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/rayfrenden/3677201612/" title="Sample Colorways by Ray Frenden, on Flickr"&gt;&lt;img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3658/3677201612_a8f082b275.jpg" width="500" height="311" alt="Sample Colorways" /&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
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      <body>WOW thanks motherfucker... JK </body>
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      <body>lol</body>
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      <body>Sweet work, Ray.   :)

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;andrE w. said:&lt;/cite&gt; ill never use these, but thats wayyy nice of you.

so when does someone start 'bandname clothing'?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

No shit -I was thinking about this earlier today! haha

It'd be a shoo-in for all those ready-made designs.</body>
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      <body>I'm curious do you pay attention to all that anatomy of a letter stuff, do you draw a grid or something, or just eyeball it and do what looks good. I like the second way much better.  My weakest link has always been type letter junk. Just wondering if you have a good starter tip that could save me a headache or two. I did some custom letters a while ago, but by the time I was done, they were damn near useless. Fucking stitches. I haven't done anything since.

Heres an old rejected design. 
I'm not looking for how to draw like you lessons, just some stuff I may have missed, I'll fill in the rest later.
&lt;img src="http://www.grabup.com/uploads/4ba4fa4a34d0064849eaa1b7196cc8a0.png" /&gt;</body>
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      <body>Thanks for taking the time out of your day to help others. I'm not sure how much ill use this but I'm sure tons of other will. Looks great!</body>
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      <body>know what i just realized?
'band name' is going to look better than the design 99% of the time, and when the band says something along the lines of, 'can we buy this design with our name in that exact typeface. how much and whats your paypal?' the designer will have to be like, 'ohhh, well, thing is, my lettering isnt as good as that...' 

but ferreal, id probably wear a shirt with this across it. MOCK IT UP RAY!</body>
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      <body>At first I was confuseded...

Then it hit me...

You are awesome.  I hope you sleep like a baby...</body>
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      <body>you are so angrily fucking awesome and then some. thanks man.</body>
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      <body>good man!</body>
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      <body>Thanks Ray!</body>
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      <body>fuckin' a right ray!</body>
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      <body>Thanks Ray you bloody bastard you.</body>
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Ameeee said:&lt;/cite&gt; Thanks Ray you bloody bastard you.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

ahahahahahah... i say that sentence exactly the same way to anyone and everyone all the time!</body>
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      <body>Ahaha, me too!</body>
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      <body>You're the man Ray.</body>
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      <body>quick and dirty test...
lovely stuff mister, thank you!
&lt;img src="http://content.screencast.com/users/ezkun/folders/Jing/media/2b71ed94-6bec-4212-9288-7d088712a285/2009-07-01_1457.png" /&gt;</body>
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      <body>That's just bad ass, Liviu.</body>
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;downrodeo said:&lt;/cite&gt; That's just bad ass, Liviu.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Frenden's fault mate:)
thankies!
i updated the emptees sub too.. http://emptees.com/tees/15967-viking-sez</body>
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      <body>Heh! Awesome!</body>
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Ray Frenden said:&lt;/cite&gt; Heh! Awesome!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

yes, you are.</body>
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      <body>This is sweet,
Should put it in the resources section so its easier for people to find once it goes down in the forum list</body>
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      <body>I would put it in resources, but the max file size is 5mb. Even zipped, this is larger.</body>
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;quakerninja said:&lt;/cite&gt; I'm curious do you pay attention to all that anatomy of a letter stuff, do you draw a grid or something, or just eyeball it and do what looks good. I like the second way much better.  My weakest link has always been type letter junk. Just wondering if you have a good starter tip that could save me a headache or two. I did some custom letters a while ago, but by the time I was done, they were damn near useless. Fucking stitches. I haven't done anything since.

Heres an old rejected design. 
I'm not looking for how to draw like you lessons, just some stuff I may have missed, I'll fill in the rest later.
&lt;img src="http://www.grabup.com/uploads/4ba4fa4a34d0064849eaa1b7196cc8a0.png" /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Just saw this. My method changes depending on the type of lettering being done. If I'm drawing a precise, geometric typeface, yeah, I'm going to make a grid and plot it all out. For most of my lettering, I just eyeball it and do what feels/looks right.</body>
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Ray Frenden said:&lt;/cite&gt; I would put it in resources, but the max file size is 5mb. Even zipped, this is larger.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

maybe add a permanent link in the resources section then?</body>
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