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  <body>So, one of my biggest mistakes starting Labyrinth was that I didnt want to tie myself down to a logo (which is pretty dumb). Then I kept pushing it back more and more. But for the past few months Ive been trying to think of ideas and Ive toyed around with a few that didnt turn out too well.

but anyway... can you guys please tell me what you think of this for a stand alone logo?

&lt;img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/Dispate/Picture11-2.png" /&gt;

as for the text reading labyrinth, it would be in cursive based around that cursive L. (which Im working on right now)


thanks so much</body>
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  <title>Labyrinth Logo? Please help/critique!</title>
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      <body>I like the labyrinth in the back but I would lose the stripes around it. Also maybe try using a different a font. Either way, I think it has a lot of potential.</body>
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      <body>thanks a lot man, the L was hand drawn. but yeah, Im trying to figure out if I like the dashed line or not.</body>
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      <body>Like NorthLane said, lose the stripes. Also, take it into Illustrator, and select the pathfinder tool, and with both the labryrinth and the L selected, hit the divide button. It will give you a very cool but not crazy obvious L that takes a second to realize that its there.</body>
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      <body>Maybe try a bold L with a maze fitted inside it or something.</body>
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Sammontana said:&lt;/cite&gt; Maybe try a bold L with a maze fitted inside it or something.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

 To do this, take the L and the labryinth into Photoshop, and place each on a seperate layer. Then with the L on the top layer, click in the middle of both layers while holding down the ALT button. Itll mask it, and the maze will be inside of the L. 

* Or it could be CTRL, it either ALT or CTRL, either one...*</body>
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      <body>thanks a lot guys, ill try working on that right now.</body>
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      <body>&lt;img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/Dispate/Picture17.png" /&gt;

&lt;img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/Dispate/Picture19.png" /&gt;

&lt;img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/Dispate/Picture21-1.png" /&gt;

&lt;img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/Dispate/Picture15.png" /&gt;

&lt;img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/Dispate/Picture13.png" /&gt;</body>
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      <body>i think i like the first and second ones the best. the Serif is too rigid and serious for what I'm going for... the Sans serif Helvetica L looks ok, but i feel like its too plain or something. Im not sure.</body>
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      <body>I like 1 &amp; 2 the most. Try using different fonts to see what looks the most appealing.</body>
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      <body>the serif &amp; sans serif are the only ones that get across the labyrinth thing inside of the letter - the hand drawn one just kind of looks like some crazy stripes, maybe if it was a bit bigger and bolder it would work better. I like 1 &amp; 2 as well but I'm just not crazy about that hand drawn L. I know that style you use for most of your hand drawn text, and it works well when it's actual words and phrases, but it's not working for me with the solitary L.

PS I don't remember if you're in north or south jersey - how far from philly are you?</body>
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;jaynajaynajayna said:&lt;/cite&gt; the serif &amp; sans serif are the only ones that get across the labyrinth thing inside of the letter - the hand drawn one just kind of looks like some crazy stripes, maybe if it was a bit bigger and bolder it would work better. I like 1 &amp; 2 as well but I'm just not crazy about that hand drawn L. I know that style you use for most of your hand drawn text, and it works well when it's actual words and phrases, but it's not working for me with the solitary L.

PS I don't remember if you're in north or south jersey - how far from philly are you?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

thanks Jayna, Im central Jersey suckaaa... so around 45 minutes or so away from philly.

and Yeah im not very sold on the labyrinth inside the L idea, i feel like every way i do it, the maze looks sorta fucked up. I worked on some more sans serifs inside the labyrinth that im starting to like... but im going to try to go for the bold hand drawn L and see if that works... 


&lt;img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/Dispate/Picture27.png" /&gt;

&lt;img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/Dispate/Picture26.png" /&gt;
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      <body>I know this is really intricate and might take a while, but if you custom made a maze in the shape of an L, that would be ace.</body>
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      <body>&lt;img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/Dispate/Picture29.png" /&gt;

I think im liking this thicker L the best... it has the playfulness that I like + some rigidity to it with the labyrinth itself</body>
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      <body>and I like the way it crosses through the center so it doesnt look completely destructed.</body>
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Quest said:&lt;/cite&gt; I know this is really intricate and might take a while, but if you custom made a maze in the shape of an L, that would be ace.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

haha yeah, That was my main idea when I started to think of logos... I tried it several times and failed miserably... Im not sure, I am really starting to like the thicker cursive L cut out of the maze though. but i do still like the custom maze idea. ahhh!</body>
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      <body>well you should come to the emptees meetup. I'll be there it's at my workplace. Just sayin'</body>
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Quest said:&lt;/cite&gt; I know this is really intricate and might take a while, but if you custom made a maze in the shape of an L, that would be ace.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This and less detailed than you actual logo, so it's not obvious that its a labyrinth.. I don't like when logos are direct image of the brand name..it's too easy

I like your brand name very much!

But make it more simple and effective!</body>
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;jaynajaynajayna said:&lt;/cite&gt; well you should come to the emptees meetup. I'll be there it's at my workplace. Just sayin'&lt;/blockquote&gt;

ohh, when is this going to happen?!</body>
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;labyrinth said:&lt;/cite&gt; &lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;jaynajaynajayna said:&lt;/cite&gt; well you should come to the emptees meetup. I'll be there it's at my workplace. Just sayin'&lt;/blockquote&gt;

ohh, when is this going to happen?!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

http://emptees.com/posts/39591-philly-meetupjune-26th-7pm-derisory-print-shop

!</body>
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;MonsieurEureka said:&lt;/cite&gt; &lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Quest said:&lt;/cite&gt; I know this is really intricate and might take a while, but if you custom made a maze in the shape of an L, that would be ace.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This and less detailed than you actual logo, so it's not obvious that its a labyrinth.. I don't like when logos are direct image of the brand name..it's too easy

I like your brand name very much!

But make it more simple and effective!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

how about something like this, but more refined.

&lt;img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/Dispate/Picture30.png" /&gt;</body>
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      <body>or it could even just be the single line through it I guess for simplicity</body>
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;jaynajaynajayna said:&lt;/cite&gt; &lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;labyrinth said:&lt;/cite&gt; &lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;jaynajaynajayna said:&lt;/cite&gt; well you should come to the emptees meetup. I'll be there it's at my workplace. Just sayin'&lt;/blockquote&gt;

ohh, when is this going to happen?!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

http://emptees.com/posts/39591-philly-meetupjune-26th-7pm-derisory-print-shop

!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

hmm, maybe I can make that! ill see, ill let you know... oh and I want to talk to you about printing some shirts jayna.</body>
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;labyrinth said:&lt;/cite&gt; &lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;MonsieurEureka said:&lt;/cite&gt; &lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Quest said:&lt;/cite&gt; I know this is really intricate and might take a while, but if you custom made a maze in the shape of an L, that would be ace.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This and less detailed than you actual logo, so it's not obvious that its a labyrinth.. I don't like when logos are direct image of the brand name..it's too easy

I like your brand name very much!

But make it more simple and effective!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

how about something like this, but more refined.

&lt;img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/Dispate/Picture30.png" /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

i dig this.</body>
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      <body>I like the last rendition but why don't you make it look more like a Labyrinth within the "L" rather than just some random lines or like what you did in previous rendition of just placing a prexisting labyrinth inside of it. Make it more of a custom created labyrinth within the "L". </body>
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;JredBrown said:&lt;/cite&gt; I like the last rendition but why don't you make it look more like a Labyrinth within the "L" rather than just some random lines or like what you did in previous rendition of just placing a prexisting labyrinth inside of it. Make it more of a custom created labyrinth within the "L".&lt;/blockquote&gt;

 Yeah, I think he said he was going to do just that, the pic here is just a rough of the general idea.</body>
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;JredBrown said:&lt;/cite&gt; I like the last rendition but why don't you make it look more like a Labyrinth within the "L" rather than just some random lines or like what you did in previous rendition of just placing a prexisting labyrinth inside of it. Make it more of a custom created labyrinth within the "L".&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes.

You should remake that L, and make it into a small labyrinth, not too detailed but bold.</body>
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      <body>thanks guys, ill try to work on it tomorrow and post something up. I appreciate all the suggestions and help!</body>
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Quest said:&lt;/cite&gt; &lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;JredBrown said:&lt;/cite&gt; I like the last rendition but why don't you make it look more like a Labyrinth within the "L" rather than just some random lines or like what you did in previous rendition of just placing a prexisting labyrinth inside of it. Make it more of a custom created labyrinth within the "L".&lt;/blockquote&gt;

 Yeah, I think he said he was going to do just that, the pic here is just a rough of the general idea.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

and yeah thats what i was doing real quick, i didnt have much time today</body>
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      <body>I see the concept but the follow-through is falling apart.

Sketch it out more and more on paper, mind map, etc. You own it, so develop the image according to your needs

http://logopond.com/

^inspiration.</body>
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;nomhak said:&lt;/cite&gt; I see the concept but the follow-through is falling apart.

Sketch it out more and more on paper, mind map, etc. You own it, so develop the image according to your needs

http://logopond.com/

^inspiration.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

thanks for the help, but yeah, i didnt have much time to work today, but the link is helpful. I appreciate it.</body>
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      <body>So I worked on it a little bit. with making my own maze or labyrinth.

&lt;img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/Dispate/Picture31.png" /&gt;

what do you guys think?
I personally like the maze outside the l.</body>
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      <body>I like the first much more. I think the underlaying design puts a lot of weight really subtracting from the L. Have you tried enlarging the L so it doesn't really FIT in the circle but spreads outwards.

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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;labyrinth said:&lt;/cite&gt; So I worked on it a little bit. with making my own maze or labyrinth.

&lt;img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/Dispate/Picture31.png" /&gt;

what do you guys think?
I personally like the maze outside the l.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Maybe... the first one, if everything was gray? I haven't tested it in photoshop or anything but I feel like that might look good</body>
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      <body>You could turn the L itself into a labyrinth just putting a pattern over it looks kind of weird.</body>
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      <body>yeah, i like the gray more, but i was just showing a standard black and white full value... I can post up a gray and a enlarged l one tomorrow.</body>
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      <body>&lt;a href="http://photobucket.com/images/pendulum" target="_blank"&gt;&lt;img src="http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk232/omgzor_2008/pendulum.jpg" border="0" alt="pendulum Pictures, Images and Photos"/&gt;&lt;/a&gt;</body>
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      <body>&lt;img src="http://www.gotterdammerung.org/film/collection/l/00000217.jpg" /&gt;</body>
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Jonas Nopa said:&lt;/cite&gt; &lt;img src="http://www.gotterdammerung.org/film/collection/l/00000217.jpg" /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I hear about this shit at every event that I sell merch at. haha.

&lt;img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/Dispate/Picture36.png" /&gt;

and gray.

&lt;img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/Dispate/Picture37.png" /&gt;

I think im more keen on the gray L inset in the maze.</body>
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      <body>i like the 1st black one and the 2nd grey</body>
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      <body>The first second black one is the greatest, go with that. Amazing logo.</body>
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;j.odom said:&lt;/cite&gt; i like the 1st black one and the 2nd grey&lt;/blockquote&gt;

yessir</body>
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      <body>thanks for all the help everyone, i appreciate it soo much!</body>
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