pipi-li - pipi-li avatar

Why (on earth) all this horror skully stuff is so fascinating for you ?!

posted 6 months ago by pipi-li

I am sooooooooo, sooooooooooooo, sooooooooooo confused!
Everytime I see empties home page, there are tons of spooky skulls. It’s kind of boring.
What about little birds, flowers, love? ;)

Ok, you are boys (he,he) but? ....

Just asking :) educate me.

45 Comments

  1. heavyprints - Nick avatar

    heavyprints said 6 months ago

    When you are a little boy who likes to draw, and you grow up reading comic books with all types of cool zombies, and skulls, and monsters. Generally, you grow up hoping to get to draw stuff you think is that cool for a living.

    So, one day you’re an adult.. and maybe you don’t get to draw them ALL the time, but sometimes you do. It makes your day.

    This is because of that.

  2. ChadDoesDesign - Chad Humphrey avatar

    ChadDoesDesign said 6 months ago

    what empties? is it the emptees for ties?haha

  3. conor - Conor avatar

    conor said 6 months ago

    Because designers are angry people. If you aren’t angry, you aren’t a real designer. Birds, flowers, love? psh.

  4. jimiyo - Jimi Benedict avatar

    jimiyo said 6 months ago

    I like skulls and the other art here, though, emptees is an interesting demographic.

    Im curious to the age range. For some reason, I think there’s some correlation with the age group and the popularity of garbage pail kids, madballs, slime, ghostbusters, thriller, similar zombie/skull/death type products during the youth of the designers here. Not sure... Just a stab in the dark.

  5. Beadler - Beadler / Michael Fennen avatar

    Beadler said 6 months ago

    jimiyo said: I like skulls and the other art here, though, emptees is an interesting demographic. Im curious to the age range. For some reason, I think there’s some correlation with the age group and the popularity of garbage pail kids, madballs, slime, ghostbusters, thriller, similar zombie/skull/death type products during the youth of the designers here. Not sure... Just a stab in the dark.

    haha +1 ...even though I probable fall in that age bracket

  6. pipi-li - pipi-li avatar

    pipi-li said 6 months ago

    "what empties? is it the emptees for ties?haha"

    Sorry, it was just the letter-mistake (good eh?:))
    I am a foreigner, you know, still learning...but especially for you, I will be checking every word in the dictionary now ;)

    "Because designers are angry people. If you aren’t angry, you aren’t a real designer. Birds, flowers, love? psh."

    birds, love, etc - it was a little provocation ;) although I do myself work with kitschy stuff.

    thank you guys :)
    Now I’m a bit wiser.
    It is just so different from my philosophy and point of view ...
    I need some time to write my observations ... checking out all the spelling ...
    please keep answering and I catch you sometime.

  7. conor - Conor avatar

    conor said 6 months ago

    I was being sarcastic, just so you know. Nothing wrong with birds, flowers, or love, which could all be kitschy as well.

  8. ChadDoesDesign - Chad Humphrey avatar

    ChadDoesDesign said 6 months ago

    pipi-li said: "what empties? is it the emptees for ties?haha" Sorry, it was just the letter-mistake (good eh?:)) I am a foreigner, you know, still learning...but especially for you, I will be checking every word in the dictionary now ;) "Because designers are angry people. If you aren’t angry, you aren’t a real designer. Birds, flowers, love? psh." birds, love, etc - it was a little provocation ;) although I do myself work with kitschy stuff. thank you guys :) Now I’m a bit wiser. It is just so different from my philosophy and point of view ... I need some time to write my observations ... checking out all the spelling ... please keep answering and I catch you sometime.

    haha i know i was messing around. i dont really get to use much skulls thanks to my clients(jerks) but i would honestly love to use more skulls.

  9. explodingtoes - explodingtoes avatar

    explodingtoes said 6 months ago

    you dont like skulls the same way i dont like collaged together photographic elements splattered with watercolor smears. but hey...they’re both everywhere!

  10. Randomentity - Courtney Varner avatar

    Randomentity said 6 months ago

    there’s a post about how old everyone is, and it is an interesting mix.
    Skullz rule, flowers drool, duh.
    and i’m pretty sure a lot of it comes from the fact that most of the guys on here grew up reading comics and being badasses.

  11. horsebites - HORSEBITES avatar

    horsebites said 6 months ago

    I’ll actually have to agree a little, I feel like most of my stuff would just blend in because there is a saturation of skulls and what not. Not that it’s bad but it’s a lot more competition to make your stuff seem different from the rest.

  12. swissarmyshark - AJ Paglia avatar

    swissarmyshark said 6 months ago

    Worst Nightmare: Motorhead plays a show wearing a flower t-shirt

  13. godmachine - Az' avatar

    godmachine said 6 months ago

    when i watch tv and the program is boring- i either turn over or turn it off. I dont write in and tell them.

    as fugazi once said 'never mind what they are selling, its what you are buying'.

    I hope you get that.

  14. matt901 - matt avatar

    matt901 said 6 months ago

    I always get the impression that alot of the folks on here get off on the more technical aspects of the designs (I don’t include everyone here btw), ie they love designs that people have laboured over in illustrator and the like, as opposed to the other aspects of a design. I tend to be drawn more towards form, colour, the expression of ideas, and composition.

    It’s all very subjective but it does seem like theres a certain type of persons who frequent this site. This is in no way a bad thing, just an observation. It’s just like if you go to other sites similar to this one they tend to have a dominant style.

  15. collisiontheory - aj dimarucot avatar

    collisiontheory said 6 months ago

    matt901 said: I always get the impression that alot of the folks on here get off on the more technical aspects of the designs (I don’t include everyone here btw), ie they love designs that people have laboured over in illustrator and the like, as opposed to the other aspects of a design. I tend to be drawn more towards form, colour, the expression of ideas, and composition. It’s all very subjective but it does seem like theres a certain type of persons who frequent this site. This is in no way a bad thing, just an observation. It’s just like if you go to other sites similar to this one they tend to have a dominant style.

    You nailed it man. It’s the dominant style here on emptees which is not a bad thing just like you said. But to be fair, there’s a lot of work on here that shows more than just the technical illustration aspect. Some get loved but a lot of good work are looked over.

  16. collisiontheory - aj dimarucot avatar

    collisiontheory said 6 months ago

    Ray Frenden said: I certainly appreciate when someone creates a hand-hewn design as opposed to farming together disparate pieces of clip-art and arranging them on a grid system. Regardless of the subject matter, those designs are more interesting to me.

    I’m biased because I can’t draw but I can appreciate both. As a designer, I look for the layout, composition, colors, concept. Doesn’t matter whether it’s clipart or not.

  17. matt901 - matt avatar

    matt901 said 6 months ago

    I fully agree Ray. The two are most definately not mutually exclusive. I think what i was trying to say is that just because something is technically sound doesnt mean it makes a great t shirt, great art yes, but not always something that belongs on a tshirt. All my opinion of course.

  18. derekdeal - Derek Deal avatar

    derekdeal said 6 months ago

    i just love whichever designer is popular

  19. collisiontheory - aj dimarucot avatar

    collisiontheory said 6 months ago

    Ray Frenden said: I have a print design background. The two criteria aren’t mutually exclusive. Being hand drawn and lettered (or hand selected, modified, or collaged ala EZ’s photo manips and the like)and having strong composition are better than using clipart and having a strong composition. Self-made will always be better assuming the person has a sense of color, proportion, composition, typography - all the usual, obvious stuff.

    Yeah but I’ve noticed alot of self-made stuff is still referenced from some photo/image/clipart. hehe I guess it just makes you more legit as an artist to draw it out rather than just use the clipart itself.

  20. matt901 - matt avatar

    matt901 said 6 months ago

    derekdeal said: i just love whichever designer is popular

    ha ha. exactly. I think you made a great point there

  21. collisiontheory - aj dimarucot avatar

    collisiontheory said 6 months ago

    Ray Frenden said: Photo reference does not equal tracing.

    True but there’s nothing wrong with tracing either. I just don’t see why hand drawn is better than using something that’s available to you already. Don’t get me wrong man, I have all respect for hand drawn talent, I wish i had those skills. I just don’t like the whole "it’s better because it’s hand drawn" mindset.

  22. a killer wombat - bailey avatar

    a killer wombat said 6 months ago

    Its cause skulls are fun to draw and look sweet. I mean, look how many people throughout history have tied so much of their cultures to skulls. All the ruins, paintings, etc... there is something very spiritual and compelling about them that just runs with how bad ass they look.

    derekdeal said: i just love whichever designer is popular

    i loved myself last night

  23. matt901 - matt avatar

    matt901 said 6 months ago

    collisiontheory said:
    Ray Frenden said: Photo reference does not equal tracing.

    I just don’t like the whole "it’s better because it’s hand drawn" mindset.

    Me neither.

    The whole can ultimately be bigger than the sum of it’s parts can it not.

  24. godmachine - Az' avatar

    godmachine said 6 months ago

    when i first came to emptees the overall style was very different- just look back through the pages.

    change will happen- styles will come and go- trends, opinions, favouritism, clip art, traced, drawn, fonts, techniques......all subject to change and opinions.

    i dont understand why or how we can debate or evaluate personal taste or expession.

    if you like it good- if you dont- good.

    i dont like pears- this neither makes them wrong or right or boring.

    its just personal taste.

  25. collisiontheory - aj dimarucot avatar

    collisiontheory said 6 months ago

    Ray Frenden said:
    collisiontheory said:True but there’s nothing wrong with tracing either. I just don’t see why hand drawn is better than using something that’s available to you already. Don’t get me wrong man, I have all respect for hand drawn talent, I wish i had those skills. I just don’t like the whole "it’s better because it’s hand drawn" mindset.

    I don’t like clipart and tracing, so I guess we are even steven.

    Fair enough. So can i buy your art to use as clipart? hehe

  26. Tender Branson - Tyler avatar

    Tender Branson said 6 months ago

    I (try) to only love things that I would wear. I’ve seen a ton of great designs and illustrations but if I wouldn’t wear it or buy it for someone, I wouldn’t love it.

    As far as illustration vs. concept vs. composition goes.. Though concept and composition are important, if your design looks like something I could have done then I’m not going to be as crazy about it as say checking out one of Ray or Jimiyo’s bad ass illustrated designs that I could never do.

  27. matt901 - matt avatar

    matt901 said 6 months ago

    The problem is when you look at the clip art in one hand and the hand drawn piece in the other. Clearly the hand drawn wins by a country mile, a no contest. However, if you then add to that clip art and create something amazing with it and then compare, there is a case for that new composition to be way better than the hand drawn image. It IS possible. Bear in mind the hand drawn image could be completely shit.

    I’m not condoning the use of shit clip art don’t get me wrong, i’m just debating the point, and i have to say i’m rather enjoying it!

  28. collisiontheory - aj dimarucot avatar

    collisiontheory said 6 months ago

    Ray Frenden said: No, but if you steal it, you CAN trace it, heh.

    Lol or I can just desperately try to draw it and just use it as "reference".

  29. collisiontheory - aj dimarucot avatar

    collisiontheory said 6 months ago

    Tender Branson said: I (try) to only love things that I would wear. I’ve seen a ton of great designs and illustrations but if I wouldn’t wear it or buy it for someone, I wouldn’t love it. As far as illustration vs. concept vs. composition goes.. Though concept and composition are important, if your design looks like something I could have done then I’m not going to be as crazy about it as say checking out one of Ray or Jimiyo’s bad ass illustrated designs that I could never do.

    That’s interesting because I’d love all great work on here whether I’d like to wear it or not. Just respect great talent. I mean I’ve loved a lot of Ray’s stuff even if I wouldn’t necessarily wear it.

  30. matt901 - matt avatar

    matt901 said 6 months ago

    Ray Frenden said: I’m considering that the qualities other than being stock or hand drawn are equal.

    sorry dude, i missed this part.

  31. collisiontheory - aj dimarucot avatar

    collisiontheory said 6 months ago

    Ray Frenden said: Ditto. I vote or love for things based on their merit and less on if I deem it my "style" if that makes sense.

    Makes total sense man. At least you’re pretty open to other styles. I mistook your stance earlier as "if it ain’t a hand drawn then it ain’t good".

  32. godmachine - Az' avatar

    godmachine said 6 months ago

    how do i, and should i, justify what i like drawing ?

    or indeed what i like?

  33. collisiontheory - aj dimarucot avatar

    collisiontheory said 6 months ago

    Godmachine said: how do i, and should i, justify what i like drawing ?

    You are god so you don’t have to justify anything my friend. haha

  34. explodingtoes - explodingtoes avatar

    explodingtoes said 6 months ago

    are we not men?

    WE ARE DEVO!

  35. Tender Branson - Tyler avatar

    Tender Branson said 6 months ago

    collisiontheory said: That’s interesting because I’d love all great work on here whether I’d like to wear it or not. Just respect great talent. I mean I’ve loved a lot of Ray’s stuff even if I wouldn’t necessarily wear it.

    There is a lot of great work on this site, but I try to stay true to the fact that this is indeed a t-shirt site.

  36. heroes - rich avatar

    heroes said 6 months ago

    WHO CARES! : ]
    draw if you wanna draw be lazy and steal google imaages if u want to steal images

    EASY!

  37. conor - Conor avatar

    conor said 6 months ago

    The truth is always in the middle. Siding to one extreme either way would be silly, and go against the art industry as a whole.

  38. Matt Rupp - Matt Rupp avatar

    Matt Rupp said 6 months ago

    I understand, if youre getting sick of the delicious amounts of zombies and skulls. I love it big time but I dont use it in my designs.

    Just look at the name of my company.
    Enough said!

  39. swissarmyshark - AJ Paglia avatar

    swissarmyshark said 6 months ago

  40. pipi-li - pipi-li avatar

    pipi-li said 6 months ago

    I like it, like it, like it!
    so many responses! made me think...:)

    The skull!

    Here on this site there is 50% (maybe exaggerating) tees with skully images.

    I have written an innocent question (No judging - explodingtoes - i haven’t written ,I don’t like skulls, althoughI DO NOT LIKE THEM as a subject in such an amount!), wondering how many of you draw skulls just for money,
    cos kids buy it? how many does it cos it is trendy and who really feels the inner need to explore the skull theme?

    I am curious. That it.

    ...and by the way, regarding the discussion clip-art contra hand-drawn. I like what I like (good art :)
    ...and by the way, I like emptees and the passion around it.

    Any girls here? I quess - no. Whyyyy ?
    Yes, I’ve seen "All for Love"
    Have to make a new post...

    Everybody! It was interesting reading your lines.
    My next tee - happy skulls of garden gnomes!

  41. pipi-li - pipi-li avatar

    pipi-li said 6 months ago

    Explodingtoes - I am not sure "collaged together photographic elements splattered with watercolor smears"
    Was it about my art? If so I can explore the subject-matter...Dear Explodingtoes :)

  42. Tender Branson - Tyler avatar

    Tender Branson said 6 months ago

    pipi-li said: happy skulls of garden gnomes!

    Haha I like this idea, do it!

  43. pipi-li - pipi-li avatar

    pipi-li said 6 months ago

    ok, give me some time, but you have to vote for it ;)

  44. conor - Conor avatar

    conor said 6 months ago

    pipi-li said: Here on this site there is 50% (maybe exaggerating) tees with skully images.

    Hmm, I would say closer to 15-20%, there aren’t as many skulls as you think! There are a good chunk of the skull/zombie/monster/metal genre designs, but not all are skulls, or even have skulls in them. I’d say there’s a pretty good mix of all genres here on emptees. You can check out all the winners here: http://emptees.com/tees/winners

    Also, there are a few girls on the site, Laurie Shipley for one is a fav amongst us. http://emptees.com/people/1884-laurieshipley

  45. pipi-li - pipi-li avatar

    pipi-li said 6 months ago

    Perfect description Conor! That what I meant - the skull/zombie/monster/metal genre designs ! = 50%

    Yes, seen Laurie works, good and funny :)

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