I was just curious...

no one critiques on this site anymore, i almost always have an opinion about how to make a piece better, even if its really minor, but I dont really feel like being the only one sticking their neck out. do you kids even care about criticism or would you rather just hear nice things? 2nd part of that question would be if you guys are even into the tee section of the site anymore, my interest has feigned a lot since the site started but i still make it over there on occasion. 2009-05-22T15:40:06-04:00

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I would love to have criticism when I get some more stuff up. Only way to really progress. 31101

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2009-05-21T12:52:57-04:00

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emptees isnt about designs or clothing anymore. its all about complaining about lowball pricing and random Youtube videos 31101

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2009-05-21T12:53:14-04:00

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yeah, i miss the tees section. i still go in there and try and add my .02 on some shirts. but there is so many people i dont recognize in there its kinda pointless... for me at least. 31101

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2009-05-21T13:03:20-04:00

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i would like it 31101

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2009-05-21T13:03:44-04:00

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I like when people critique my work. Whenever I can, I try to critique someone Else's work. But, it seems like people get all pissed and defensive when I do that. 31101

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2009-05-21T13:03:50-04:00

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i know this thread is going to blow up, but I'll contribute anyways: I don't think anyone should call people dicks when they say something that they think could be changed to make a design better. Kyle always gets crap from random people calling him a dick, but he's really just helping the designer out in the long run. Without critiques, you'll never get better unless you are very good at watching and learning. I check out the tees and talk section about the same amount. I always open up the top tees that grab my eye though. 31101

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2009-05-21T13:05:30-04:00

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I wish people would leave more thoughts on tees when they get posted. I just posted 2 over the weekend, and was really hoping for them to get some critiques or something. Critiques from the amazing designers here really do go a long way, and have helped me to progress a lot...it's a shame that not much of that happens anymore. 31101

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2009-05-21T13:06:23-04:00

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<blockquote><cite>Jeff Buchanan said:</cite> I like when people critique my work. Whenever I can, I try to critique someone Else's work. But, it seems like people get all pissed and defensive when I do that.</blockquote> it's cause you're a noob (not saying I'm the most experienced cat in the kennel...?) 31101

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<blockquote><cite>Jeff Buchanan said:</cite> I like when people critique my work. Whenever I can, I try to critique someone Else's work. But, it seems like people get all pissed and defensive when I do that.</blockquote> critique away at my pieces sir, i wont get butthurt :) 31101

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I care about criticism and I'm trying to give some advice wehenever I can. 31101

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2009-05-21T13:13:07-04:00

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i try to critique, but the tees section has become so overwhelming, if i don't look for a day i have a few pages to look through. 31101

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I mean honestly, it just kind of sucks sifting through a lot of the stuff on there.......... I still try to say stuff about stuff though. If I posted tees with any type of frequency I would say tear 'em up. I get really sick of people telling me how awesome I am in all facets of life all the time. Gets old. Every artist needs criticism, either to grow from it or to learn to ignore it. Anyway, if people do give criticism with a backhanded tone, it's the artists job to try to see the/any value in it, and you know, grow a fucking pair and not be such a whiny baby. 31101

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i like criticism im used to it if it helps me get better I'm all for it 31101

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I post to Stylus for discussion on art/improvement. I post here to stir up shit. 31101

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I haven't been here long/don't post often so I don't like to give to much crit as people might think I'm just being a dick, but I try to look in the tee section every time I come on 31101

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2009-05-21T13:22:13-04:00

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I try to be constructive but I am definitely guilty of just pointing out the good in things, more often than not. I would hope that people wouldn't hold back from constructively critiquing my work, as I feel like it's one of the best ways to learn, especially since there's such an abundance of talent on this site. The only thing I can't stand is the negative comments with no substance ie: "This sucks" "laaame" "stoopid" etc. If that's honestly how you feel, so much so that it prompts you to leave such a statement on ones work, at least elaborate and tell us why you feel that way. But yeah, I frequent the Talk section while I'm at work to kill the boredom but I try to make my way to the tees section every day. Overall, I agree with the statement that constructive criticism is an elusive beast these days... shame really :/ 31101

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2009-05-21T13:22:25-04:00

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i like criticism but i dont like it when people just say "hey dood that sux" tell me how i can improve and i would love to hear some from Derek and Angray as i look up to your styles as for the tee section, i check it constantly. i love to see what other people are putting up and giving a little love to the fellow artists here. 31101

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<blockquote><cite>jaynajaynajayna said:</cite> I mean honestly, it just kind of sucks sifting through a lot of the stuff on there.......... I still try to say stuff about stuff though. If I posted tees with any type of frequency I would say tear 'em up. I get really sick of people telling me how awesome I am in all facets of life all the time. Gets old. Every artist needs criticism, either to grow from it or to learn to ignore it. Anyway, if people do give criticism with a backhanded tone, it's the artists job to try to see the/any value in it, and you know, grow a fucking pair and not be such a whiny baby.</blockquote> agreed. I hate it if I see a tee of mine just sitting there with no comments or criticisms and practically no votes when I know its not like a didnt spend time on it or anything, its not the best thing out there, but its not the worst. I think when I first joined about a year ago, I would try to critique designs that I thought needed some help, and I feel like people did that to the first few tees I posted... but then that faded away. 31101

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2009-05-21T13:24:32-04:00

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Everyday I look and love tees, its an important part of being part of this community. 31101

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2009-05-21T13:28:04-04:00

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I definitely feel like an outsider when I'm on here sometimes because it doesn't relate to shirt design as it used to be. I mean I'm guilty of hardly ever critiquing mainly because shirts get posted so quickly on here. I'm gonna make it a point to offer more advice and what not. I would like to see this site regress some. 31101

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2009-05-21T13:28:17-04:00

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I think I critique quite a lot. Not so much on shirt designs because I don't particularly feel qualified on that, but more on logos, type and layout work. I hate incessant back-slapping. It's nice to get compliments if they're warranted, but I'd like it if someone pointed out a glaring error or something that could make it better. 31101

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<blockquote><cite>horsebites said:</cite> I definitely feel like an outsider when I'm on here sometimes because it doesn't relate to shirt design as it used to be. I mean I'm guilty of hardly ever critiquing mainly because shirts get posted so quickly on here. I'm gonna make it a point to offer more advice and what not. I would like to see this site regress some.</blockquote> <blockquote><cite>dobi said:</cite> i try to critique, but the tees section has become so overwhelming, if i don't look for a day i have a few pages to look through.</blockquote> yeah, i think that's what kinda kills it for me, just too much to wade through. Before you could say something and watch the person improve upon it. Now if you said anything, by the time the person read the comment and did something about it, its already 5 pages deep and forgotten about. 31101

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2009-05-21T13:32:19-04:00

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I also feel like getting no critique and no loves or anything doesnt help and makes people not want to submit much anymore... I mean I feel that way at least. 31101

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2009-05-21T13:33:24-04:00

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I agree that the tees section is crazy. It's so much to keep up with. Plus, lately it's just filled with a lot of stuff that I don't even care to give my opinion on. Also, people tend to act poorly when its anything that can be construed as negative. 31101

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2009-05-21T13:33:55-04:00

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<blockquote><cite>labyrinth said:</cite> I also feel like getting no critique and no loves or anything doesnt help and makes people not want to submit much anymore... I mean I feel that way at least.</blockquote> well, to be honest, it is what it is. Theres no better way to express disinterest in a design than by not leaving a comment or love. If people arent getting the attention they want, they should force themselves to be more introspective and figure out why. 31101

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2009-05-21T13:36:33-04:00

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you are gonna get a load of 'try it in blue', 'i dont like the teeth', the arms dont look right' on every fucking tee now. 31101

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2009-05-21T13:36:42-04:00

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<blockquote><cite>godmachine said:</cite> you are gonna get a load of 'try it in blue', 'i dont like the teeth', the arms dont look right' on every fucking tee now.</blockquote> haha 31101

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2009-05-21T13:37:28-04:00

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2009-05-21T13:40:20-04:00

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I still try to help out. Nice things are alway great to hear but the mean things help more. If people were not such assholes when I firt joined/started, I would still be making argyle designs with neon edge filter applied to them. 31101

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2009-05-21T13:41:24-04:00

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I alway go to the tee section. Guys like Flying mouse, matihole etc that never post in the chat always post amazing stuff. I admit there´s a lot of shit to sift through (including mine) but it´s all part of the fun. Ctrl left and right are a big tool for me. 31101

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2009-05-21T13:45:19-04:00

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the one thing that bugs me the most about emptees is it seems to have become a beginning illustrators site, rather than a t-design site. 31101

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2009-05-21T13:47:54-04:00

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<blockquote><cite>dobi said:</cite> the one thing that bugs me the most about emptees is it seems to have become a beginning illustrators site, rather than a t-design site.</blockquote> This If there wasn't so much unmocked vector bullshit it would be a lot better. It seems that there is a lot of that lately. 31101

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2009-05-21T13:50:38-04:00

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<blockquote><cite>dobi said:</cite> the one thing that bugs me the most about emptees is it seems to have become a beginning illustrators site, rather than a t-design site.</blockquote> Yeah, but it's still a tees section. And most people who make tees are... illustrators. Not mutually exclusive in the least. I don't think it's a bad thing 31101

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2009-05-21T13:53:38-04:00

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I find that sometimes when I critique the person gets all bent out of shape and defensive. It's come to the point that I don't even bother. If I like it I'll say something, if I don't then I just move on. 31101

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2009-05-21T13:54:48-04:00

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<blockquote><cite>Kevin Doom said:</cite> I agree that the tees section is crazy. It's so much to keep up with. Plus, lately it's just filled with a lot of stuff that I don't even care to give my opinion on. Also, people tend to act poorly when its anything that can be construed as negative.</blockquote> este! 31101

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2009-05-21T13:55:44-04:00

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<blockquote><cite>derekdeal said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>labyrinth said:</cite> I also feel like getting no critique and no loves or anything doesnt help and makes people not want to submit much anymore... I mean I feel that way at least.</blockquote> well, to be honest, it is what it is. Theres no better way to express disinterest in a design than by not leaving a comment or love. If people arent getting the attention they want, they should force themselves to be more introspective and figure out why.</blockquote> To be honest I'd much rather get critiqued and shown what is not good about the design than getting praised by it. In a matter of fact I fully agreed with what you had to say about my last design ( derekdeal said: its like the face is the most interesting part and everything else is just kind of there. Its a nice piece i just think you could have fleshed it out more. ) and am focusing more on that. I'd like to be more critical but sometimes people here take it to heart. I fully welcome all critics so feel free to expose my flaws and I hope that I can do the same for all of you in hopes to help improve the community and the art that we all love so much. 31101

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2009-05-21T13:57:59-04:00

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I agree with everyone about welcoming criticism. Rip my shit apart...only helps. However, to the 'regulars' who say its not worth sifting through the tee section because there are so many artists you don't recognize is fucking annoying. Sure, there are people who just submit crap to see their stuff on a website, but there are a lot of people new to the design world as well who are sincerely trying to get involved and get opinions from the more established players. My only suggestion for lightening the load in the tee section would be to restrict more than 1 or 2 submissions a day (yes I know its an unwritten rule here to keep the daily subs to a minimum, but it obviously isn't clear to everyone because there are still people posting 5+ shirts a day). 31101

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2009-05-21T14:00:04-04:00

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I only post criticism if I think I'm qualified, and if I think it'll make a difference. Generally this place is an ego-minefield, usually the chances of pissing someone off outweigh the benefit of pointing out something they're probably not willing to go back and fix anyway. Also, clients look here and I don't feel like it's appropriate to point out someones mistakes in front of possible buyers. I generally keep criticism private. 31101

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2009-05-21T14:04:13-04:00

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2009-05-21T14:09:41-04:00

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<blockquote><cite>heavyprints said:</cite> I only post criticism if I think I'm qualified, and if I think it'll make a difference. Generally this place is an ego-minefield, usually the chances of pissing someone off outweigh the benefit of pointing out something they're probably not willing to go back and fix anyway. Also, clients look here and I don't feel like it's appropriate to point out someones mistakes in front of possible buyers. I generally keep criticism private.</blockquote> I agree to a certain extent, if a client truly likes the artwork then they will also respect the fact that minor issues are being pointed out and possibly fixed. In turn making the overall design that much better plus if we can point things out don't you think the consumer might too. I think the criticism should be productive and not malicious or below the belt. 31101

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2009-05-21T14:14:38-04:00

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I welcome crit, not that I ever post anything...but its how you become better as an artist...and putting in 15 hour work shifts, I browse the Tee section and Talk section a ton. 31101

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2009-05-21T14:17:47-04:00

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every time i get critiqued on an idea, or a design, i appreciate wholeheartedly. i go to SCAD down here, and they've really showed us how important a negative, or a positive critique is. personally, i love having my shit torn apart, whether it be a shirt, a cd layout, a picture, or a website design. thanks derek for bringing this up. getting feedback from guys like you, joey, kyle, ben, and horsebites means the world to me, so PLEASE, keep it up... 31101

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2009-05-21T14:19:04-04:00

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<blockquote><cite>PitchGrim said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>heavyprints said:</cite> I only post criticism if I think I'm qualified, and if I think it'll make a difference. Generally this place is an ego-minefield, usually the chances of pissing someone off outweigh the benefit of pointing out something they're probably not willing to go back and fix anyway. Also, clients look here and I don't feel like it's appropriate to point out someones mistakes in front of possible buyers. I generally keep criticism private.</blockquote> I agree to a certain extent, if a client truly likes the artwork then they will also respect the fact that minor issues are being pointed out and possibly fixed. In turn making the overall design that much better plus if we can point things out don't you think the consumer might too. I think the criticism should be productive and not malicious or below the belt.</blockquote> I've posted designs too early and had the client decide against it due to a bad reception here. Noone was being malicious. Just life. 31101

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2009-05-21T14:31:18-04:00

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<blockquote><cite>alexcampbellart said:</cite> I welcome crit, not that I ever post anything...but its how you become better as an artist...and putting in 15 hour work shifts, I browse the Tee section and Talk section a ton.</blockquote> when are you going to post man? not having a go, just wondering what you are like 31101

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2009-05-21T14:31:39-04:00

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<blockquote><cite>a thousand eyes design said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>alexcampbellart said:</cite> I welcome crit, not that I ever post anything...but its how you become better as an artist...and putting in 15 hour work shifts, I browse the Tee section and Talk section a ton.</blockquote> when are you going to post man? not having a go, just wondering what you are like</blockquote> Im actually working on some things right now...just got manga studio working and what not. I havent posted because I've been busting my ass in school haha. 31101

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2009-05-21T14:33:10-04:00

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why i don't really visit this site anymore. see... <img src="http://www.grabup.com/uploads/25cf5b86b1beea5d684db0a9b10e966b.png" /> haha... i only got better in school when people ripped me apart. But you can't say only bad or only good things. I like the 2/1 ratio. 2 suggestions to make it better and 1 positive thing about the piece. 31101

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2009-05-21T15:02:28-04:00

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2009-05-21T15:06:03-04:00

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Chris, i was just on your sites looking around today lol. Love your work man! 31101

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2009-05-21T15:07:36-04:00

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I agree 100% with Chris & Nick. I would critique, but I don't want to be the only one pointing out flaws, also don't want to gush like other people only do. Also, I'm not a designer but I do own and operate a tee company, so I don't want to alienate people that I may want to work with someday. 31101

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2009-05-21T15:08:04-04:00

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i just make tha best of it bruh 31101

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2009-05-21T15:08:15-04:00

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<blockquote><cite>darius designs said:</cite> i just make tha best of it bruh</blockquote> GOOO AWAY! ahah 31101

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2009-05-21T15:09:29-04:00

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<blockquote><cite>gregispaperroot said:</cite> I agree 100% with Chris & Nick. I would critique, but I don't want to be the only one pointing out flaws, also don't want to gush like other people only do. Also, I'm not a designer but I do own and operate a tee company, so I don't want to alienate people that I may want to work with someday.</blockquote> this site is a pussy-fest! feel free to rip me a new one whenever i'm posting dumb shit...that is, to critique and suggest improvements. at least two times when people pointed out flaws i re-did those aspects of the design and surely they got better. 31101

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2009-05-21T15:11:17-04:00

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<blockquote><cite>eZ-kun said:</cite> feel free to rip me a new one whenever i'm posting dumb shit...that is, to critique and suggest improvements.</blockquote> Shut and Up? Joking man, i agree, C&C is the one thing i ask for on my work. I would trade loves for crits any day (not that i get ether aha) 31101

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2009-05-21T15:13:40-04:00

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i like criticism, and i think everyone does. but i think when we all get one of those snarky motherfuckers commenting to start something, that just boils the blood yeah? critiquing can be used to point out stupid moves, i'm still learning from it. but some people spread hate... ...like i spread their mother's legs at least twice a week. 31101

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2009-05-21T15:35:53-04:00

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I see a divide between the people I respect and admire who really don't need any criticism because they're already self critical and the people that could really could use some. But for that latter, I feel sort of like why bother, because they're just ripping off someone else's style anyways... 31101

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2009-05-21T17:12:27-04:00

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i think constructive criticism is always good but most of the time it just seems to be criticism 31101

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2009-05-21T17:32:39-04:00

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I can only really see one thing helping: Max upload of 1 design per day, for everyone! That should reduce most of the shit, if someone is really serious about uploading more than one design then they wont mind waiting an extra day or two. As far as critiquing goes, i think we'd see more critiques when the number of tees being submitted goes down, it'll be less intimidating. 31101

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2009-05-21T17:46:00-04:00

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If I feel like giving some sort of input I do. I won't say anything if I really don't have anything constructive to say. http://emptees.com/tees/35781-in-line-swine Case and point 31101

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2009-05-21T17:57:28-04:00

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Constructive criticism is the way forwards for everyone, however good they are! LETS BRING BACK THE TEES SECTION!! 31101

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2009-05-21T18:40:52-04:00

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I try to give feedback as much as I can .....I would love any kind of feedback, I would prefer negative though because I would love to know what a lot of you think I could do to improve. (especially some of you top dawgs out there, I hardly ever get much feedback from you) 31101

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2009-05-21T19:46:37-04:00

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critique my shit! 31101

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2009-05-21T20:00:57-04:00

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Whenever I give crits on here, people just dismiss them as personal opinion or whatever. So I just keep to myself. 31101

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2009-05-21T20:04:58-04:00

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<img src="http://content.screencast.com/users/ezkun/folders/Jing/media/1b43ec92-2485-4bdd-8699-3d339a573666/2009-05-22_0302.png" /> i do get awesome crit sometimes, haha:) http://emptees.com/tees/35951-predictions 31101

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2009-05-21T20:06:26-04:00

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I seem to just vote and tell people why I like their designs. I guess I always feel weird telling people they should change or do something different. Who am I to tell someone that their design needs work? Maybe that was their vision, maybe I'm not catching their concept... So I guess I'm just commenting on stuff I'd buy or really admire artistically. 31101

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2009-05-21T20:15:15-04:00

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I could say so much to this, though I don't even know if anyone will understand/acknowledge it. 31101

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I used to give it, but it seems anyone with photoshop now and a tshirt mock knows everything already so they get supper pissy. 31101

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<blockquote><cite>rich.a said:</cite> i think constructive criticism is always good but most of the time it just seems to be criticism</blockquote> yeah like this guy http://emptees.com/people/9595-sharkclothing its not helping 31101

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I also wish the tees section only existed for printed tees / designs up for voting, not so much as "your name here" and ideas that aren't finished 31101

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2009-05-21T21:12:24-04:00

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I'd love to get critiques too, honestly... I'm almost about to beg for some criticism... Despite all the effort I try to put in my work, it just never seems to be enough and still nobody seems to appreciate... Maybe I just suck but if so, won't anybody tell me? At least insult me, I dunno... 31101

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2009-05-21T21:22:22-04:00

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<blockquote><cite>dobi said:</cite> I also wish the tees section only existed for printed tees / designs up for voting, not so much as "your name here" and ideas that aren't finished</blockquote> yeah, that plays into what you were saying earlier. There's just an overwhelming amount of subpar work to sift through. Maybe we should just make quakerninja the shirt reaper, since he basically loves every shirt, whichever he doesnt just goes 'poof' after a day. 31101

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<blockquote><cite>derekdeal said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>dobi said:</cite> I also wish the tees section only existed for printed tees / designs up for voting, not so much as "your name here" and ideas that aren't finished</blockquote> yeah, that plays into what you were saying earlier. There's just an overwhelming amount of subpar work to sift through. Maybe we should just make quakerninja the shirt reaper, since he basically loves every shirt, whichever he doesnt just goes 'poof' after a day.</blockquote> I think you may me joking, but that is a cool idea hah. OR if a shirt doesn't get a certain amount of loves it deletes itself? If gets less than maybe 5? 31101

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2009-05-21T22:00:46-04:00

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I try and crit whenever I log in, although tis a lot to wade through and I'm not the best when in comes to communication in any format. That said if a design really floats my boat, I'll give it a good old praise and some. 31101

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2009-05-21T22:15:27-04:00

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Sites flooded with too much DBH + Threadless stuff. Once a week you'll get sommet rad in the tees but they get lost in the shuffle with the "Band Name" and bullshit. 31101

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2009-05-21T22:18:33-04:00

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I go to the tee section all the time. I spend less time in the chat these days. Critique wise, it's just mostly positive feedback and small "flaws" that I notice I point it out, because I am in no position to judge, I'd rather be judged atm. but my comments are often overlooked, and it'll probably happen with this one as well... haha. :) 31101

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2009-05-21T23:23:33-04:00

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With people saying things about subpar work... no one can improve then. What needs to happen is those subpar things need to be put into the design in progress category and then just choose if you want to look at tees that are printed, tees up for voting, or works in progress. That would cut back on a lot of things, as long as people put their tee in the appropriate place etc. 31101

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2009-05-21T23:28:20-04:00

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<blockquote><cite>dobi said:</cite> I also wish the tees section only existed for printed tees / designs up for voting, not so much as "your name here" and ideas that aren't finished</blockquote> I don't think thats fair at all. Unless emptees is a website strictly for established, well known designers only...and if so, I was unaware. I'll use myself as an example. I have a background in fine arts but I am quite new to design and art software. A lot of the work on this website actually INSPIRED me to try my hand at design/illustration, but its pretty discouraging to hear people bitching that every tee submitted isn't the work of a pro. If I'm not a paid designer and/or confident enough in my work to sub it for voting I should just refrain from posting anything at all on emptees? I thought the beauty of emptees was the fact that its not a contest site, but a means to share your work and gather information from others. I can see how people say there is subpar work posted...obviously there are people who post mocks they spend 5 minutes on just to see their shit on the website. But there are also a TON of people who aren't professionals who want to improve and get involved. I'm know I'm on a long rant now....this thread has just opened my eyes to how "cliquey" and obnoxious a lot of this community is. /endrant 31101

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2009-05-21T23:39:36-04:00

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<blockquote><cite>M5Froth said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>dobi said:</cite> I also wish the tees section only existed for printed tees / designs up for voting, not so much as "your name here" and ideas that aren't finished</blockquote> I don't think thats fair at all. Unless emptees is a website strictly for established, well known designers only...and if so, I was unaware. I'll use myself as an example. I have a background in fine arts but I am quite new to design and art software. A lot of the work on this website actually INSPIRED me to try my hand at design/illustration, but its pretty discouraging to hear people bitching that every tee submitted isn't the work of a pro. If I'm not a paid designer and/or confident enough in my work to sub it for voting I should just refrain from posting anything at all on emptees? I thought the beauty of emptees was the fact that its not a contest site, but a means to share your work and gather information from others. I can see how people say there is subpar work posted...obviously there are people who post mocks they spend 5 minutes on just to see their shit on the website. But there are also a TON of people who aren't professionals who want to improve and get involved. I'm know I'm on a long rant now....this thread has just opened my eyes to how "cliquey" and obnoxious a lot of this community is. /endrant</blockquote> no one was talking about you...you work hard for your stuff, and that is good! Yes, it's cliquey and you'll see in about one year how tiring it is to make the angry mob larger, it takes a ton of time to get to know the new guys. And that's no reason for them to be rejected, just that some quality control would be nice now and then! 31101

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2009-05-22T01:47:21-04:00

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well even if the tee designs were actually good i'd still probably rather be over here posting pics of tits and dixx FTW and shit. 31101

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2009-05-22T01:52:13-04:00

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Just because you don't like a certain style (not talking about quality of artwork , graphics etc) doesn't mean they shouldn't be posted in the tee section. Some people actually like the "threadless" style shirts, when people here start monitoring shirts on "only designs they like" get on the tee section then personally i think thats wrong. What you might like i might not etc. 31101

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2009-05-22T01:56:42-04:00

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<blockquote><cite>derek said:</cite> Just because you don't like a certain style (not talking about quality of artwork , graphics etc) doesn't mean they shouldn't be posted in the tee section. Some people actually like the "threadless" style shirts, when people here start monitoring shirts on "only designs they like" get on the tee section then personally i think thats wrong. What you might like i might not etc.</blockquote> Well I'm just saying Threadless is a big enough site/forum to browse many shirts of that particular style from various artists. There's a place of its own! Many have come here looking for votes. 31101

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2009-05-22T02:22:13-04:00

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<blockquote><cite>dobi said:</cite> I also wish the tees section only existed for printed tees / designs up for voting, not so much as "your name here" and ideas that aren't finished</blockquote> I disagree. I've posted quite a few designs that weren't printed. Hell, if it wasn't for that option I would have never fallen into tee design. Because of my made up tees people contacted me for work 31101

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2009-05-22T02:26:23-04:00

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Butcher, yeah i totally see your point but i think variation in design is a good thing. Each designer has their own personal style and it's cool to see different angles. Maybe i should just stay over at threadless ha ha :) 31101

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2009-05-22T02:51:08-04:00

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<blockquote><cite>Colemadethis said:</cite> yeah, i miss the tees section. i still go in there and try and add my .02 on some shirts. but there is so many people i dont recognize in there its kinda pointless... for me at least.</blockquote> i mean yeah you dont recognize them but they still deserve critisism none the less. 31101

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2009-05-22T04:41:29-04:00

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<blockquote><cite>Killer Napkins said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>dobi said:</cite> I also wish the tees section only existed for printed tees / designs up for voting, not so much as "your name here" and ideas that aren't finished</blockquote> awww most of my designs arent pritned :(</blockquote> Killer´s right, yeah don´t agree, and if you have to say it´s sold anyone can lie too. There´s no real soulution to the amount of crap that´s posted. 31101

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2009-05-22T04:47:21-04:00

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<blockquote><cite>gaunty said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>Killer Napkins said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>dobi said:</cite> I also wish the tees section only existed for printed tees / designs up for voting, not so much as "your name here" and ideas that aren't finished</blockquote> awww most of my designs arent pritned :(</blockquote> Killer´s right, yeah don´t agree, and if you have to say it´s sold anyone can lie too. There´s no real soulution to the amount of crap that´s posted.</blockquote> well i think the one simple resolution is one tee per day, that would help. 31101

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2009-05-22T05:44:54-04:00

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and sorry for calling someone out, but this is what i mean by sifting through just sketchbook doodles, i mean even the summary of the tee explains that it is just doodling, not a tee design... http://emptees.com/tees/36711-larry-david <img src="http://cache1.emptees.com/images/136801/larrydavidemptees.jpg" /> watched some curb your enthusiasm and now my leg is asleep 31101

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2009-05-22T05:48:06-04:00

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this is also rather annoying <img src="http://www.grabup.com/uploads/ff7a55621d7469d235ab9788ded72fbd.png"> 31101

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2009-05-22T06:45:18-04:00

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<blockquote><cite>dobi said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>gaunty said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>Killer Napkins said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>dobi said:</cite> I also wish the tees section only existed for printed tees / designs up for voting, not so much as "your name here" and ideas that aren't finished</blockquote> awww most of my designs arent pritned :(</blockquote> Killer´s right, yeah don´t agree, and if you have to say it´s sold anyone can lie too. There´s no real soulution to the amount of crap that´s posted.</blockquote> well i think the one simple resolution is one tee per day, that would help.</blockquote> yeah, that's what i said earlier. I think this is the only viable way forward... 31101

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2009-05-22T07:01:30-04:00

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I do agree with a lot of what everyone is saying. Their is a lot of people just posting "doodles and what not", which is ridiculous. Although I also think the people who are "sub par", but are really trying and putting the time into their designs are really hoping on critiques and help. I mean we are a decently humble community and I thought that is one of the reasons why this site was created and also why so many on here have been successful, right? I could be totally off base here, which if so I apologize ahead of time. 31101

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2009-05-22T10:01:21-04:00

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<blockquote><cite>dobi said:</cite> well i think the one simple resolution is one tee per day, that would help.</blockquote> 31101

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2009-05-22T10:09:20-04:00

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<blockquote><cite>dobi said:</cite> i try to critique, but the tees section has become so overwhelming, if i don't look for a day i have a few pages to look through.</blockquote> pretty much the same here. it's hard to sort through the tees section to find the gems these past few months. 31101

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2009-05-22T10:45:45-04:00

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I said forever ago in the thread about what else emptees should have as a site, that you should be able to "follow" certain people. That way you don't have to sift through a bunch of garbage, and if someone new posts and you want to keep an eye on them, it's way easier not to just forget about them. I always miss tees from people I like 31101

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2009-05-22T11:50:06-04:00

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2009-05-22T11:51:23-04:00

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pointless thread is pointless. 31101

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2009-05-22T12:18:45-04:00

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<blockquote><cite>jaynajaynajayna said:</cite> I said forever ago in the thread about what else emptees should have as a site, that you should be able to "follow" certain people. That way you don't have to sift through a bunch of garbage, and if someone new posts and you want to keep an eye on them, it's way easier not to just forget about them. I always miss tees from people I like</blockquote> that is a good idea but then when someone new joins and is worth looking at you may not see them as you'll only tend to look at the people you follow, then it might become like deviantart where there's so much good talent getting missed because the popular people (that don't always deserve to be popular) get all the credit and followers 31101

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2009-05-22T12:41:57-04:00

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<blockquote><cite>mark_weighall said:</cite> when someone new joins and is worth looking at you may not see them as you'll only tend to look at the people you follow, then it might become like deviantart where there's so much good talent getting missed because the popular people (that don't always deserve to be popular) get all the credit and followers</blockquote> 31101

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2009-05-22T12:54:06-04:00

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<blockquote><cite>mark_weighall said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>jaynajaynajayna said:</cite> I said forever ago in the thread about what else emptees should have as a site, that you should be able to "follow" certain people. That way you don't have to sift through a bunch of garbage, and if someone new posts and you want to keep an eye on them, it's way easier not to just forget about them. I always miss tees from people I like</blockquote> that is a good idea but then when someone new joins and is worth looking at you may not see them as you'll only tend to look at the people you follow, then it might become like deviantart where there's so much good talent getting missed because the popular people (that don't always deserve to be popular) get all the credit and followers</blockquote> Deviant art has around 10 million members and like thousands and thousands of submissions every day. Maybe you have a lazy internet ass but I'd still look at the tee section, it'd just make it possible for me to keep up with artists on here that I like, especially when I don't check it for a few days. And as one of the popular kids, I want to tell you to not be mad about not being popular. 31101

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2009-05-22T13:31:32-04:00

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<blockquote><cite>jaynajaynajayna said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>mark_weighall said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>jaynajaynajayna said:</cite> I said forever ago in the thread about what else emptees should have as a site, that you should be able to "follow" certain people. That way you don't have to sift through a bunch of garbage, and if someone new posts and you want to keep an eye on them, it's way easier not to just forget about them. I always miss tees from people I like</blockquote> that is a good idea but then when someone new joins and is worth looking at you may not see them as you'll only tend to look at the people you follow, then it might become like deviantart where there's so much good talent getting missed because the popular people (that don't always deserve to be popular) get all the credit and followers</blockquote> Deviant art has around 10 million members and like thousands and thousands of submissions every day. Maybe you have a lazy internet ass but I'd still look at the tee section, it'd just make it possible for me to keep up with artists on here that I like, especially when I don't check it for a few days. And as one of the popular kids, I want to tell you to not be mad about not being popular.</blockquote> I was going to say yeah it sounded like DeviantArt but that is a really good point. DeviantArt is massive. But, if this place starts getting overrun by shitty anime designs I'm gone. 31101

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2009-05-22T13:37:18-04:00

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<blockquote><cite>Sam Kaufman said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>jaynajaynajayna said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>mark_weighall said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>jaynajaynajayna said:</cite> I said forever ago in the thread about what else emptees should have as a site, that you should be able to "follow" certain people. That way you don't have to sift through a bunch of garbage, and if someone new posts and you want to keep an eye on them, it's way easier not to just forget about them. I always miss tees from people I like</blockquote> that is a good idea but then when someone new joins and is worth looking at you may not see them as you'll only tend to look at the people you follow, then it might become like deviantart where there's so much good talent getting missed because the popular people (that don't always deserve to be popular) get all the credit and followers</blockquote> Deviant art has around 10 million members and like thousands and thousands of submissions every day. Maybe you have a lazy internet ass but I'd still look at the tee section, it'd just make it possible for me to keep up with artists on here that I like, especially when I don't check it for a few days. And as one of the popular kids, I want to tell you to not be mad about not being popular.</blockquote> I was going to say yeah it sounded like DeviantArt but that is a really good point. DeviantArt is massive. But, if this place starts getting overrun by shitty anime designs I'm gone.</blockquote> ha, yeah im sure that's next. You can actually subscribe to an artist's tee rss feed as of now but yeah, who does that. 31101

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2009-05-22T14:18:55-04:00

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<blockquote><cite>derekdeal said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>Sam Kaufman said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>jaynajaynajayna said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>mark_weighall said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>jaynajaynajayna said:</cite> I said forever ago in the thread about what else emptees should have as a site, that you should be able to "follow" certain people. That way you don't have to sift through a bunch of garbage, and if someone new posts and you want to keep an eye on them, it's way easier not to just forget about them. I always miss tees from people I like</blockquote> that is a good idea but then when someone new joins and is worth looking at you may not see them as you'll only tend to look at the people you follow, then it might become like deviantart where there's so much good talent getting missed because the popular people (that don't always deserve to be popular) get all the credit and followers</blockquote> Deviant art has around 10 million members and like thousands and thousands of submissions every day. Maybe you have a lazy internet ass but I'd still look at the tee section, it'd just make it possible for me to keep up with artists on here that I like, especially when I don't check it for a few days. And as one of the popular kids, I want to tell you to not be mad about not being popular.</blockquote> I was going to say yeah it sounded like DeviantArt but that is a really good point. DeviantArt is massive. But, if this place starts getting overrun by shitty anime designs I'm gone.</blockquote> ha, yeah im sure that's next. You can actually subscribe to an artist's tee rss feed as of now but yeah, who does that.</blockquote> I don't believe in rss feeds 31101

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2009-05-22T14:21:47-04:00

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you could just check the homepage usually everything worth seeing is on there 31101

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2009-05-22T14:23:22-04:00

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<blockquote><cite>jaynajaynajayna said:</cite> I don't believe in rss feeds</blockquote> i assure you, they exist 31101

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2009-05-22T14:26:33-04:00

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lol I like that weighball is totally in charge of who should and should not be popuar. 31101

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2009-05-22T14:31:04-04:00

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I love art. Nothing else matters. 31101

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2009-05-22T15:37:03-04:00

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<blockquote><cite>Matt Rupp said:</cite> I love art. Nothing else matters.</blockquote> art is dumb 31101

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2009-05-22T15:38:24-04:00

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<blockquote><cite>jaynajaynajayna said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>Matt Rupp said:</cite> I love art. Nothing else matters.</blockquote> art is dumb</blockquote> You are a dummie, then. 31101

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2009-05-22T15:40:06-04:00

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