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  <body>I just think its funny is all.

http://www.hydro74.com
http://www.olddirtydermot.com/
http://www.twhitedesign.com
http://www.setup85.com
http://www.dickiejones33.com/

and don't get me wrong, i kinda dig certain elements of the style... but dang.

the names are a trip too.
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  <title>Clones!</title>
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      <body>im honestly way over the vector skull shit, i think it looks retarded and too surfer/low riderish

its sucks</body>
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      <body>haha the names are what kills me. i mean who's gonna remember 74 85 33 or 57?</body>
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      <body>yeah, dude, stuff is really cold and played out.</body>
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      <body>old57hydro85jonesdesign.com
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;chrisrushing said:&lt;/cite&gt; old57hydro85jonesdesign.com&lt;/blockquote&gt;

haha... "could you write that down please?"</body>
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      <body>like i said though, hydro is the man and in my opinion started it all.  and he still does it better than anybody.</body>
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;chrisrushing said:&lt;/cite&gt; like i said though, hydro is the man and in my opinion started it all.  and he still does it better than anybody.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I completely agree, and it is getting a little played out. But, i think you guys are in a completely different market. Although catering to some clients around the nation the majority of what you do is centered around where you live. I can tell you that this style is still really active and selling in california. Plus in my opinion, i don't think anyone here designs this style or even likes it a whole lot. It just doesn't do well on emptees. Although everyone here has their own style (mostly) you guys are all seem to do designs for the same crowd. </body>
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Ray Frenden said:&lt;/cite&gt; Hydro is a friend/e-cquantance. We've belonged to an art collective together for a couple of years. His work is really top notch. Look at the type, fer chrissake.

I don't know the other guys.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

same here, i've worked with hydro on some stuff before.  he's hooked me up.  i think its crazy there are so many clones though.</body>
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      <body>I am here to rep Josh and his badassery. Robotface foeva. [0-0]

And while we're on the clone subject, did someone say kdu? :P</body>
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      <body>it is all totally beautiful stuff- but totally heartless at the same time. i really like it and wishi could do it- but i wouldnt wear it- its proper quicksilver type of stuff. 

all the same- does anyone know where i can get some good fonts from- those eloaborate swirly gothicy fonts they use- I promise not to use them in my work (coz i cant anyway) but would be good for clients.

cheers.</body>
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Godmachine said:&lt;/cite&gt; it is all totally beautiful stuff- but totally heartless at the same time. i really like it and wishi could do it- but i wouldnt wear it- its proper quicksilver type of stuff. 

all the same- does anyone know where i can get some good fonts from- those eloaborate swirly gothicy fonts they use- I promise not to use them in my work (coz i cant anyway) but would be good for clients.

cheers.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I have to say i believe the majority of it is done by hand dude.</body>
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      <body>yeah for the longest time I thought twhite was hydro just working under another name... sounds stupid I know. But for a while they were doing the same clients in the exact same style... hydro has gotten a lot better though.

And I mean if you look through it, half them have done... skulls, metal looking animals, and kabuki masks.</body>
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;a killer wombat said:&lt;/cite&gt; yeah for the longest time I thought twhite was hydro just working under another name... sounds stupid I know. But for a while they were doing the same clients in the exact same style... hydro has gotten a lot better though.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

they are now a hydro 74 team or working on it i believe.</body>
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;a killer wombat said:&lt;/cite&gt; yeah for the longest time I thought twhite was hydro just working under another name... sounds stupid I know. But for a while they were doing the same clients in the exact same style... hydro has gotten a lot better though.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

i thought the same way for like a month.</body>
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Reilly said:&lt;/cite&gt; I am here to rep Josh and his badassery. Robotface foeva. [0-0]

And while we're on the clone subject, did someone say kdu? :P&lt;/blockquote&gt;

i have no idea what you just said</body>
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      <body>so I'm really going through these things... we sure they arn't all the same guy? Seriously. All very talented but come on... you could put it all in one portfolio and I would have no idea who did what.</body>
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;IamEZ said:&lt;/cite&gt; im honestly way over the vector skull shit, i think it looks retarded and too surfer/low riderish

its sucks&lt;/blockquote&gt;

yeah pacsun 2001. there is a reason that store is tanking all over the nation. 

hydro is still awesome, though. i always dug the type stuff he used to make for mtv back in the day. </body>
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      <body>yeah I thought Hydro &amp; T WHite were one and the same for a long time...hydro's stuff is cool but the style is def played...I love his typography though...he has been heavily influenced by
http://www.maxx242.com/
and
http://www.enjoymunk.com/
and
http://www.ogabel.com/
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;derekdeal said:&lt;/cite&gt; &lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Reilly said:&lt;/cite&gt; I am here to rep Josh and his badassery. Robotface foeva. [0-0]

And while we're on the clone subject, did someone say kdu? :P&lt;/blockquote&gt;

i have no idea what you just said&lt;/blockquote&gt;

think he's talking about the KDU - http://consulting.thekdu.com/ (under showcase)

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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;faithbydesign said:&lt;/cite&gt; Although everyone here has their own style (mostly) you guys are all seem to do designs for the same crowd.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

for shizzle. this place aint necessarily my style, but i bet if i wanted too.... i could do some really bad ass illustrations of zombies or some crazy looking shit... with some vivid colors and a little choas, you guys would be lovin on that shit. I guarantee. emptees love monsters,zombies,super Color, and wild big designs. (im not saying that just because of frendens work is loved here, its a general theme i see... zombies/monsters/booger snot orchestra)

also, i have to defend TWhite. Hyrdo74 and Troy work together and even hang out, so theres a reason they are similar. besides TWhite has hooked me up with some work he didnt feel was his style, and it was bank.</body>
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      <body>oh yes i agree ^.</body>
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      <body>These are some of the most talented dudes around. Hydro is basically the whole reason I got into apparel design in the first place, and what he's doing with Back in Black is frickin genius. 

Its not the hardest style to rip, and frankly skulls will never be played out. Zombies though...</body>
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