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  <body>Dear Emptees,
Let me start by saying I would never mean to hurt you. In the beginning of the relationship we started out great. We were both so young and full of ambition. It didn't take much love to make me feel like a man all day. We tried new things together. It was fun.

But lately, I feel like we're drifting apart. You've gained a little weight, and just aren't as pretty as when you were younger. 

I grew up and started seeing new people and hanging around with people my age. Lately, you just seem to be hanging out with the younger crowd. All you want to talk about is christianity, sonic the hedgehog,gauging ears, new clothing companies that only launch with 2 "pre-order" shirts, and so forth.

I just don't feel like we connect at the same level anymore. 

It's not you it's me.

Forever &amp; Always,
Faith By Design</body>
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  <title>Dear Emptees</title>
  <updated-at type="datetime">2009-11-08T02:19:40-05:00</updated-at>
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      <body>if you dont like it you can giit ouut

&lt;img src="http://images.southparkstudios.com/img/content/characters/134a.jpg" /&gt;</body>
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      <body>&lt;img src="http://www.grabup.com/uploads/dba68e25aad9b2be661ea8b24477cb8d.png?direct" /&gt;</body>
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;chrisrushing said:&lt;/cite&gt; &lt;img src="http://www.grabup.com/uploads/dba68e25aad9b2be661ea8b24477cb8d.png?direct" /&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Speaks volumes I think.</body>
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      <body>Maybe we should have emptees.com and then empteens.com?</body>
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      <body>i miss the old emptees a lot too:((
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;hunty said:&lt;/cite&gt; Maybe we should have emptees.com and then empteens.com?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

haha thats awesome</body>
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      <body>Couldn't agree more. The level of professionalism, quality design, and conversation has dropped severely. Emptees used to be a daily visit for me.</body>
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;hunty said:&lt;/cite&gt; Maybe we should have emptees.com and then empteens.com?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

haha you are brilliant!

i really am quite sick of coming on here to see stupidity, and fighting. if someone disagrees with something it shouldn't turn into a big e-fight. i dont see why we cant just discuss designing and tees in peace, because that's what we all love right? theres just no need for all of these stupid debates here, and for that matter theres no need to make posts that you know are going to cause a ruckus.
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      <body>send noodz

ahem, sorry.

You know - its just as easy to ignore the fighting and just deal with the threads that matter.

It's the beauty of community innit? Just as the new kids come on here and change the 'voice and tone' so can us oldies take it back to where it began...

(or something)</body>
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;hunty said:&lt;/cite&gt; send noodz

ahem, sorry.

You know - its just as easy to ignore the fighting and just deal with the threads that matter.

It's the beauty of community innit? Just as the new kids come on here and change the 'voice and tone' so can us oldies take it back to where it began...

(or something)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

problem is...the guys that are coming and refuse to respect any of the members of this community. When I first loged in i was terrified by the level of the whole thing. I wouldn't have dared open my mouth against anyone here...</body>
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      <body>Agree with Hunty completely. 

This is just one more completely unnecessary thread, especially by your standards. What do you expect people to say, or do? There's a "new thread" button if none of the titles seem appealing to you.

Do somethin'

*edit* but regardless; I wish you all the best man with everything you do, talented mofug. Didn't want to make this seem like an ill-willed post. take care!</body>
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;eZ-kun said:&lt;/cite&gt; &lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;hunty said:&lt;/cite&gt; send noodz

ahem, sorry.

You know - its just as easy to ignore the fighting and just deal with the threads that matter.

It's the beauty of community innit? Just as the new kids come on here and change the 'voice and tone' so can us oldies take it back to where it began...

(or something)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

problem is...the guys that are coming and refuse to respect any of the members of this community. When I first loged in i was terrified by the level of the whole thing. I wouldn't have dared open my mouth against anyone here...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I wouldn't really say its a lack of respect to be honest. It seems to be that many new/young artists can sense the level of comfort in being personal on here with other artists, so they are just being themselves. Or the new artists have never heard of many well-respected artists on here and they simply don't know any better. Of course that's not true for everyone, but its apparent to be a trend.

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;discordantart said:&lt;/cite&gt; Agree with Hunty completely. 

This is just one more completely unnecessary thread, especially by your standards. What do you expect people to say, or do? There's a "new thread" button if none of the titles seem appealing to you.

Do somethin'&lt;/blockquote&gt;

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      <body>To add to this,
I also think that alot of what needs to be talked about in designing and clothing line stuff has already been asked or discussed. I would say that you could search the threads and find 80% of what you are looking for.</body>
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;hunty said:&lt;/cite&gt; send noodz

ahem, sorry.

You know - its just as easy to ignore the fighting and just deal with the threads that matter.

It's the beauty of community innit? Just as the new kids come on here and change the 'voice and tone' so can us oldies take it back to where it began...

(or something)&lt;/blockquote&gt;

wise words, bro.</body>
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      <body>http://emptees.com/posts/16617-why-does-emptees-look-like-designbyhumans

...

Tired of these kind of threads</body>
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      <body>i've noticed the landscape change a bit.
it's like with anything new, people are all over it and mess with it for a while, and as soon as interest dies down or a person matures, they completely give it up or see the quality in what they got. 
if it's really for them, it'll be something in their lives. 
if not, they'll move on to something different. 

whether the storm my friend!
i'm sure something good will come out of it and we'll get a lot of great designers contributing to a site that's first and foremost, an art appreciation site, and secondly an awesome community of people. 





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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;xjoshuabelangerx said:&lt;/cite&gt; i've noticed the landscape change a bit.
it's like with anything new, people are all over it and mess with it for a while, and as soon as interest dies down or a person matures, they completely give it up or see the quality in what they got. 
if it's really for them, it'll be something in their lives. 
if not, they'll move on to something different. 

whether the storm my friend!
i'm sure something good will come out of it and we'll get a lot of great designers contributing to a site that's first and foremost, an art appreciation site, and secondly an awesome community of people.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I agree, I approached this in the lightest &amp; funniest way possible. It's just like the music scene. You feel like you were the first person to like a band and hate what happens when everyone else finds out about it and they get super popular. LOL</body>
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;jimmyheartcore said:&lt;/cite&gt; Think about this.

We are on here so often, it is easy to run out of t-shirt related things to talk about. We need to talk about random stuff sometimes just to stay on our toes.

After all, I would rather discuss other things I care about with people I actually enjoy than go and have discussions of the same subject matter on other message boards that focus on said subject.

Does that last bit make any sense?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

totally... the whole thing does.</body>
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;jimmyheartcore said:&lt;/cite&gt; Think about this.

We are on here so often, it is easy to run out of t-shirt related things to talk about. We need to talk about random stuff sometimes just to stay on our toes.

After all, I would rather discuss other things I care about with people I actually enjoy than go and have discussions of the same subject matter on other message boards that focus on said subject.

Does that last bit make any sense?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Totally makes sense. I just get annoyed by &lt;b&gt;some&lt;/b&gt; of the younger crowd who really just talk out of their asses.</body>
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      <body>To everything there is a season,
a time for every purpose under the sun.</body>
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      <body>That basically put my feelings into words Jimmy.</body>
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      <body>If you have an internet site, peopple will come to it. The more people that do, the more that will come. Think of it as interest on a bank note. The more you get , the more you pay.

This literally happens at EVERY big site on the net. There are always those select few that think of it as "theirs" and I totally understand that. Does it make it right? Probably not. But, I do get it. I was part of a site that catered to one select motorcycle, and it seemed like overnight, everyone bought the damn thing, or wanted too. We were all upset.

I guess what im trying to say is, with all due respect, get over it. Are you not part of a new website somewhere? I dont really know anyone that got their aol 1.5 disks, dialed up to the net, and picked their 5 websites to frequent, and never go anywhere else.</body>
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      <body>sorry, I took so olong to write that, I see im really just echoing many people, that said it way better.

Forgive</body>
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Screaming Jimmy said:&lt;/cite&gt; If you have an internet site, peopple will come to it. The more people that do, the more that will come. Think of it as interest on a bank note. The more you get , the more you pay.

This literally happens at EVERY big site on the net. There are always those select few that think of it as "theirs" and I totally understand that. Does it make it right? Probably not. But, I do get it. I was part of a site that catered to one select motorcycle, and it seemed like overnight, everyone bought the damn thing, or wanted too. We were all upset.

I guess what im trying to say is, with all due respect, get over it. Are you not part of a new website somewhere? I dont really know anyone that got their aol 1.5 disks, dialed up to the net, and picked their 5 websites to frequent, and never go anywhere else.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

See now I come off as a dick with my previous statements to you. But you see, everyday someone new just shows up, posts some shit to start a fight, and then you don't see them again. Daily dose of drama.</body>
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      <body>lol, no problem johnny!! I totally understand. 

Im just here to try and learn, and hopefully make better designs because of it. Im relatively new to DBh ( i know, the devil ) after following one of my idols their, jimiyo. my work isn't doing so great their, and I just wanted an alternative forum. I guess if my t shirts suck at two completely different sites, ill hang it up and give handjobs on the corner.</body>
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Screaming Jimmy said:&lt;/cite&gt; lol, no problem johnny!! I totally understand. 

Im just here to try and learn, and hopefully make better designs because of it. Im relatively new to DBh ( i know, the devil ) after following one of my idols their, jimiyo. my work isn't doing so great their, and I just wanted an alternative forum. I guess if my t shirts suck at two completely different sites, ill hang it up and give handjobs on the corner.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Let me know when you start giving handjobs.  I'm in for 1.  I have friends as well, that would be into this.</body>
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;alexcampbellart said:&lt;/cite&gt; &lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Screaming Jimmy said:&lt;/cite&gt; lol, no problem johnny!! I totally understand. 

Im just here to try and learn, and hopefully make better designs because of it. Im relatively new to DBh ( i know, the devil ) after following one of my idols their, jimiyo. my work isn't doing so great their, and I just wanted an alternative forum. I guess if my t shirts suck at two completely different sites, ill hang it up and give handjobs on the corner.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Let me know when you start giving handjobs.  I'm in for 1.  I have friends as well, that would be into this.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Theres a discount for people wearing my shirts. Tell your friends.</body>
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Screaming Jimmy said:&lt;/cite&gt; lol, no problem johnny!! I totally understand. 

Im just here to try and learn, and hopefully make better designs because of it. Im relatively new to DBh ( i know, the devil ) after following one of my idols their, jimiyo. my work isn't doing so great their, and I just wanted an alternative forum. I guess if my t shirts suck at two completely different sites, ill hang it up and give handjobs on the corner.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

i like you already:)</body>
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      <body>ill be on emptees even if i become paralized...lets face it where there is a good amount of people there is drama.you wont find anywhere like that except in cults (hint hint...emptees the cult i like the sound of that).. if you dont like the drama and aruguing just dont post in those particular threads or read them.. there is a tee section on this site aswell as talk go chill there for a bit dotn knock the site because we are a disfunctional family. </body>
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Screaming Jimmy said:&lt;/cite&gt; lol, no problem johnny!! I totally understand. 

Im just here to try and learn, and hopefully make better designs because of it. Im relatively new to DBh ( i know, the devil ) after following one of my idols their, jimiyo. my work isn't doing so great their, and I just wanted an alternative forum. I guess if my t shirts suck at two completely different sites, ill hang it up and give handjobs on the corner.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

there* ( sorry, get used to that ;] ) 

anways, welcome! I, for one, am glad you came. And that you are not another avatarless troll coming here to start crap.

also, Jimmy speaks the troof.</body>
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