<img src="http://kingstrike.com/images/about.gif?1236740844"/> <strong><a href="http://kingstrike.com"/>Kingstrike</a> launched today.</strong> Kingstrike seems a godsend for clients and designers alike. <strong>They list art for sale.</strong> There are plenty of sites which do that, but the site is structured in a unique way. <strong>Clients see prices.</strong> Transparency allows for ease of buying the art. <strong>Purchased shirts are immediately downloadable by clients.</strong> The designer uploads the high res file when submitting the design. This allows a client to be confident that a purchase made is an easily, instantly printable piece of art. I really think such a site could be grand for the community. I've been toying with designing more in advance of being requested for art; Kingstrike looks like a great way to test those waters. 2009-08-17T20:45:48-04:00 214 2009-03-12T11:04:45-04:00 15452 false false 11188 5738 1 Kingstrike! 2009-11-08T03:32:03-05:00 4368 Oh cool, I'm going to check it out now, Nice find Ray. 15452 Post 2009-03-12T11:07:13-04:00 400421 506 2009-03-12T11:07:13-04:00 Holy shit! I've always thought it was a great idea to have a marketplace for t-shirt/apparel designers. This is awesome ray. Did you get invited already? 15452 Post 2009-03-12T11:11:05-04:00 400424 1259 2009-03-12T11:11:05-04:00 nice one. That site looks promising. 15452 Post 2009-03-12T11:11:14-04:00 400426 1498 2009-03-12T11:11:27-04:00 <blockquote><cite>quakerninja said:</cite> Nice find Ray.</blockquote> 15452 Post 2009-03-12T11:11:20-04:00 400427 9980 2009-03-12T11:11:20-04:00 I still like collaborating with designers to create a custom piece though. 15452 Post 2009-03-12T11:12:49-04:00 400428 5512 2009-03-12T11:12:49-04:00 <blockquote><cite>mathcasey said:</cite> I still like collaborating with designers to create a custom piece though.</blockquote> i like that too;) let me know when you need me:) and yeah, nice find Ray! 15452 Post 2009-03-12T11:16:58-04:00 400430 3643 2009-03-12T11:16:58-04:00 <blockquote><cite>collisiontheory said:</cite> Holy shit! I've always thought it was a great idea to have a marketplace for t-shirt/apparel designers. This is awesome ray. Did you get invited already?</blockquote> Yeah; I upped the wolfman to start. I have a heap of designs that can go up there, though. mathcasey, there will always be a place for that. That desire doesn't negate the benefits of the site, though. Two different animals. 15452 Post 2009-03-12T11:19:40-04:00 400434 5738 2009-03-12T11:19:40-04:00 <blockquote><cite>FRENDEN said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>collisiontheory said:</cite> Holy shit! I've always thought it was a great idea to have a marketplace for t-shirt/apparel designers. This is awesome ray. Did you get invited already?</blockquote> Yeah; I upped the wolfman to start. I have a heap of designs that can go up there, though. mathcasey, there will always be a place for that. That desire doesn't negate the benefits of the site, though. Two different animals.</blockquote> Yeah just saw it! Love that you mocked it on a purple shirt!! <img src="http://kingstrike.com/static/designs/81/original/placement.png" /> So how does it work, does Kingstrike take a percentage of sale? 15452 Post 2009-03-12T11:21:35-04:00 400435 1259 2009-03-12T11:21:35-04:00 Is the design sold once? First come first serve I'm guessing. I like that the price is showing, good move. Yeah this is going to be a hit. I'm not sure if I should post it here but there is an email for an invite. Make it formal these guys want to be impressed remember. Good luck guys. 15452 Post 2009-03-12T11:24:31-04:00 400436 506 2009-03-12T11:24:31-04:00 CT, they make some dough, yeah. Worth it to clear the backlogs, heh! Purple was really the only way to go on that one; agree with you completely. 15452 Post 2009-03-12T11:39:30-04:00 400448 5738 2009-03-12T11:39:40-04:00 this already exists, it's called DesginSpin. 15452 Post 2009-03-12T12:02:14-04:00 400460 1106 2009-03-12T12:02:14-04:00 DesignSpin isn't curated/moderated and caters to a shit demographic. $40 designs? EYE ROLL. 15452 Post 2009-03-12T12:07:30-04:00 400466 5738 2009-03-12T12:07:30-04:00 some of those designs for $400? EYE ROLL. 15452 Post 2009-03-12T12:13:09-04:00 400472 1815 2009-03-12T12:13:09-04:00 You guys are funny. 15452 Post 2009-03-12T12:14:53-04:00 400473 5738 2009-03-12T12:14:53-04:00 <blockquote><cite>Pearls To Pigs said:</cite> some of those designs for $400? EYE ROLL.</blockquote> 15452 Post 2009-03-12T12:14:58-04:00 400474 4552 2009-03-12T12:14:58-04:00 Yes, let's continue prostituting ourselves for far less than we deserve. <em>Brilliant</em> long-term strategy. 15452 Post 2009-03-12T12:16:57-04:00 400477 5738 2009-03-12T12:16:57-04:00 <blockquote><cite>Pearls To Pigs said:</cite> some of those designs for $400? EYE ROLL.</blockquote> <blockquote><cite>Fat Mouse said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>Pearls To Pigs said:</cite> some of those designs for $400? EYE ROLL.</blockquote></blockquote> I'm surprised you guys are surprised. Most of those guys are established. 15452 Post 2009-03-12T12:20:31-04:00 400480 1259 2009-03-12T12:20:31-04:00 it's surprising to me that you are surprised that they are surprised. 15452 Post 2009-03-12T12:22:01-04:00 400485 67 2009-03-12T12:22:01-04:00 It continually amazes me the depths to which some lower their prices. They're pricing the market out of existence. 15452 Post 2009-03-12T12:22:28-04:00 400487 5738 2009-03-12T12:24:05-04:00 <blockquote><cite>Joey said:</cite> it's surprising to me that you are surprised that they are surprised.</blockquote> Surprise! 15452 Post 2009-03-12T12:23:43-04:00 400488 1259 2009-03-12T12:23:43-04:00 <blockquote><cite>FRENDEN said:</cite> Yes, let's continue prostituting ourselves for far less than we deserve. <em>Brilliant</em> long-term strategy.</blockquote> oh, it has nothing to do with getting far less than people deserve. the vast majority of those designs are just overpriced pieces that couldn't find a home because a. they suck or b. they're good, but look more like a painting and look foolish on a tee shirt. it's just sad that people want to be involved in the tee shirt business, yet lack the creativity to come up with design ideas on their own and then hire a good artist to design it. but if people want to be dumb enough to seek out websites like this and designspin, and pay for an obviously marked up piece of lame- then go for it. and if some dude can get $400 dollars for their mickey mouse sandwich, that's awesome, too. 15452 Post 2009-03-12T12:23:52-04:00 400489 1815 2009-03-12T12:23:52-04:00 $400 is fair for quality work. 15452 Post 2009-03-12T12:24:13-04:00 400490 5570 2009-03-12T12:24:38-04:00 <blockquote><cite>FRENDEN said:</cite> It continually amazes me the depths to which some lower their prices. You're pricing the market out of existence.</blockquote> We're supposed to charge?! 15452 Post 2009-03-12T12:24:32-04:00 400491 1027 2009-03-12T12:24:32-04:00 I think MAYBE getting that price is good or at least called for if it was for a specific client. Meaning they came to you for the idea and came to you for that specific purpose. Making random stuff and throwing it on a site expecting to get a same price seems kind of IFFIE to me. Some of these appear to be rejects or unapproved artwork. To me paying that high is a joke. I think for that price, you should put your heart, thought and imagination into a specific client. Not just making artwork, for whatever reason and hoping to get that price. I dont think throwing any piece of art on a shirt, makes it a tshirt. Tee design is an art. You have something laying around, you should be happy to get something rather than nothing. The price they are asking I feel is for a CUSTOM PIECE. It will also be disheartening to those who go on that site to kind of get a quote from you without particularly asking, seeing the price and their bubble is quickly busted. People will start basing their prices on what "so and so charges" It's a bad move in my opinion. 15452 Post 2009-03-12T12:24:42-04:00 400492 782 2009-03-12T12:28:19-04:00 <blockquote><cite>Pearls To Pigs said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>FRENDEN said:</cite> Yes, let's continue prostituting ourselves for far less than we deserve. <em>Brilliant</em> long-term strategy.</blockquote> oh, it has nothing to do with getting far less than people deserve. the vast majority of those designs are just overpriced pieces that couldn't find a home because a. they suck or b. they're good, but look more like a painting and look foolish on a tee shirt. it's just sad that people want to be involved in the tee shirt business, yet lack the creativity to come up with design ideas on their own and then hire a good artist to design it. but if people want to be dumb enough to seek out websites like this and designspin, and pay for an obviously marked up piece of lame- then go for it. and if some dude can get $400 dollars for their mickey mouse sandwich, that's awesome, too.</blockquote> $400 isn't some godly sum. It's pretty barrier of entry. Most companies and designers do not work with a glorified spec-work-slum-band-shirt mentality. Nice dig on my painterly piece. Because all shirts need look the same to be valid. 15452 Post 2009-03-12T12:25:07-04:00 400493 5738 2009-03-12T12:29:36-04:00 i do have a question about rights with this though... so some of these designs are more threadless style designs where the illustration may be simple but its really the idea that is awesome (ex. Bloods vs Crypts). lets say: -some company copies the idea/design and produces it. (snorg) -then someone buys the design off this site. only to find out later its been copied. -the copycat would have technically had the design first so the person would be SOL. that may seem like a far fetched scenario but i can see a lot of people coming to a site like this just to copy ideas that aren't produced yet. do you anticipate this being an issue at all? 15452 Post 2009-03-12T12:27:09-04:00 400494 1106 2009-03-12T12:27:09-04:00 I'll take 400 bucks. 15452 Post 2009-03-12T12:27:22-04:00 400495 6901 2009-03-12T12:27:22-04:00 <blockquote><cite>skull with hair said:</cite> i do have a question about rights with this though... so some of these designs are more threadless style designs where the illustration may be simple but its really the idea that is awesome (ex. Bloods vs Crypts). lets say: -some company copies the idea/design and produces it. (snorg) -then someone buys the design off this site. only to find out later its been copied. -the copycat would have technically had the design first so the person would be SOL. that may seem like a far fetched scenario but i can see a lot of people coming to a site like this just to copy ideas that aren't produced yet. do you anticipate this being an issue at all?</blockquote> I don't think so; production is a second step. The tee having been shown first at a site like this indicates who was first. Ya think? 15452 Post 2009-03-12T12:28:40-04:00 400497 5738 2009-03-12T12:28:40-04:00 <blockquote><cite>FRENDEN said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>skull with hair said:</cite> i do have a question about rights with this though... so some of these designs are more threadless style designs where the illustration may be simple but its really the idea that is awesome (ex. Bloods vs Crypts). lets say: -some company copies the idea/design and produces it. (snorg) -then someone buys the design off this site. only to find out later its been copied. -the copycat would have technically had the design first so the person would be SOL. that may seem like a far fetched scenario but i can see a lot of people coming to a site like this just to copy ideas that aren't produced yet. do you anticipate this being an issue at all?</blockquote> I don't think so; production is a second step. The tee having been shown first at a site like this indicates who was first. Ya think?</blockquote> yeah but who would sue? the artist? they already have their money. the company would have to prove they had they had the design first wouldn't they? 15452 Post 2009-03-12T12:31:18-04:00 400499 1106 2009-03-12T12:31:18-04:00 <blockquote><cite>skull with hair said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>FRENDEN said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>skull with hair said:</cite> i do have a question about rights with this though... so some of these designs are more threadless style designs where the illustration may be simple but its really the idea that is awesome (ex. Bloods vs Crypts). lets say: -some company copies the idea/design and produces it. (snorg) -then someone buys the design off this site. only to find out later its been copied. -the copycat would have technically had the design first so the person would be SOL. that may seem like a far fetched scenario but i can see a lot of people coming to a site like this just to copy ideas that aren't produced yet. do you anticipate this being an issue at all?</blockquote> I don't think so; production is a second step. The tee having been shown first at a site like this indicates who was first. Ya think?</blockquote> yeah but who would sue? the artist? they already have their money. the company would have to prove they had they had the design first wouldn't they?</blockquote> Ah, I see your point now. I hadn't considered that; I'll have to mull that one over a bit. 15452 Post 2009-03-12T12:32:49-04:00 400503 5738 2009-03-12T12:32:49-04:00 i dont really want to get mixed up in this,but... i LOVE the logo. 15452 Post 2009-03-12T12:33:08-04:00 400504 1146 2009-03-12T12:33:08-04:00 <blockquote><cite>derekdeal said:</cite> i dont really want to get mixed up in this,but... i LOVE the logo.</blockquote> +1000 15452 Post 2009-03-12T12:34:22-04:00 400505 1106 2009-03-12T12:34:22-04:00 In thinking it over, the litigation would definitely be on the side of the company which purchased the design. They'd indicate date of purchase with their receipt, show when the design was available on a site like this, and they would be in the right. Unfortunately, rippers seldom care either way. I tend not to limit myself based on potential misappropriations (whether that's in posting detailed shots, watermarkless mockups, etc). 15452 Post 2009-03-12T12:39:03-04:00 400511 5738 2009-03-12T12:39:03-04:00 <blockquote><cite>skull with hair said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>derekdeal said:</cite> i dont really want to get mixed up in this,but... i LOVE the logo.</blockquote> +1000</blockquote> call and raise you another +1000 (see cuz it's a poker king? see? see?) I really like that site, such a great idea. I'm sure like most every newly launched site there will be some things to iron out, but overall I think this is a great model. I know if I were starting my own line (or an existing large brand looking to add to my line) I would most definitely be looking at this site. 15452 Post 2009-03-12T12:53:11-04:00 400534 11937 2009-03-12T12:53:11-04:00 I think it's a great idea. And why should we limit ourselves to only doing work for under a certain amount because smaller companies with smaller budgets shout about crazy prices? Why are the prices crazy? If I sell a shirt design for $400 and the client goes on to sell 10,000 worldwide, was it a good or a bad investment? Then people would be telling me I didn't get enough for that piece. We need to wisen up as an industry and stop apologising for what we charge because the guy paying thinks we should. <img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3007/2699362896_914104675b.jpg?v=0" /> Go Kingstrike, GO! 15452 Post 2009-03-12T13:12:53-04:00 400548 71 2009-03-12T13:13:25-04:00 i don't think paying 400 dollars for a design is anyone's point in here. but excellent soapbox, steve. cool king picture. 15452 Post 2009-03-12T13:18:32-04:00 400555 1815 2009-03-12T13:18:32-04:00 Totallly agree with you Steven. I think some folks are only probably used to what bands/labels are paying, which in my experience is in the $125-250 range, some up to $325. But I've dealt with smaller clothing lines who've paid in the $400-500 range. It really depends on what you think you're worth and how you market yourself. 15452 Post 2009-03-12T13:25:00-04:00 400561 1259 2009-03-12T13:25:00-04:00 I kind of see where everyone is coming from. I think everyone has a point. I agree with what Kyle says though. Those kind of prices for custom client pieces are absolutely right, but that's not what these are. I still think it's a really superb business model and could be really successful if it kicks off, but i don't know if they could do that without adjusting how it works slightly. I can't see loads of people seeing $400 and going "yeah, that's reasonable". The people wanting to pay that amount will contact the artists and get custom work because they understand the industry more than the people who want any old good design and don't care whether it was created for them or not. 15452 Post 2009-03-12T13:26:57-04:00 400562 6884 2009-03-12T13:27:47-04:00 <blockquote><cite>Kyle Crawford said:</cite> I think MAYBE getting that price is good or at least called for if it was for a specific client. Meaning they came to you for the idea and came to you for that specific purpose. Making random stuff and throwing it on a site expecting to get a same price seems kind of IFFIE to me. Some of these appear to be rejects or unapproved artwork. To me paying that high is a joke. I think for that price, you should put your heart, thought and imagination into a specific client. Not just making artwork, for whatever reason and hoping to get that price. I dont think throwing any piece of art on a shirt, makes it a tshirt. Tee design is an art. You have something laying around, you should be happy to get something rather than nothing. The price they are asking I feel is for a CUSTOM PIECE. It will also be disheartening to those who go on that site to kind of get a quote from you without particularly asking, seeing the price and their bubble is quickly busted. People will start basing their prices on what "so and so charges" It's a bad move in my opinion.</blockquote> $400 bucks is pretty fair a custom piece, i gotta agree with Kyle that i won't pay for the work shown there, unless it really blows me away. The impression i get is this pieces are rejected designs. 15452 Post 2009-03-12T13:29:16-04:00 400568 5512 2009-03-12T13:29:16-04:00 hear hear. 15452 Post 2009-03-12T13:33:47-04:00 400571 1815 2009-03-12T13:33:47-04:00 does anyone know how much Kingstrike pays the designer? 15452 Post 2009-03-12T13:35:08-04:00 400573 1106 2009-03-12T13:35:08-04:00 not sure whether I'd use this service or not but I like the idea. I am on the fence. 15452 Post 2009-03-12T13:42:02-04:00 400582 2991 2009-03-12T13:42:02-04:00 totally forgot i did this <img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3134/2696031893_836662685f.jpg?v=1216846733" /> 15452 Post 2009-03-12T13:48:23-04:00 400590 1146 2009-03-12T13:48:23-04:00 <blockquote><cite>skull with hair said:</cite> this already exists, it's called DesginSpin.</blockquote> http://emptees.com/tees/artwork-for-sale 15452 Post 2009-03-12T13:50:07-04:00 400594 5512 2009-03-12T13:50:07-04:00 Crikey, people here seem a bit negative to me sometimes. I don't know what harm it can do. If you're a designer and get the chance, why not throw a design on there and see what happens? If you're a brand/label and think it's a wack idea just steer clear. Seems to me that another outlet for designers can only be a good thing. And who knows, a design that you deem unworthy of $400 could be just what someone is looking for for that money. Everybody prices there work differently but just because someone is happy to charge $100 shouldn't stop us all thinking big should it? Design like art is worth what people are willing to pay for it - sometimes that is $400, sometimes it ain't. 15452 Post 2009-03-12T13:50:38-04:00 400595 2734 2009-03-12T13:50:38-04:00 <blockquote><cite>daleedwinmurray said:</cite> Crikey, people here seem a bit negative to me sometimes. I don't know what harm it can do. If you're a designer and get the chance, why not throw a design on there and see what happens? If you're a brand/label and think it's a wack idea just steer clear. Seems to me that another outlet for designers can only be a good thing. And who knows, a design that you deem unworthy of $400 could be just what someone is looking for for that money. Everybody prices there work differently but just because someone is happy to charge $100 shouldn't stop us all thinking big should it? Design like art is worth what people are willing to pay for it - sometimes that is $400, sometimes it ain't.</blockquote> this swayed my thought. 15452 Post 2009-03-12T13:51:50-04:00 400599 2991 2009-03-12T13:51:50-04:00 The idea that the designs are "rejected" is a unique construct of the wide popularity of e-competitions. When a design doesn't print at a contest, I wouldn't call it a reject, mainly because it may have been heavily embraced and scored extremely well. These sites can't print everything. In fact, all my designs that have scored higher than 3 have not printed at Threadless. The weirdest thing is that, as a freelance apparel designer, most of my custom commissions that are guided and shaped by companies, that never go up for some vote, would score terribly at Threadless or DBH, but do very well for their respective companies (I hope, or I don't know why I get repeat buisness). So thinking about something as a reject, at least in a negative connotation, because it didn't win an online competition is kinda weak. 15452 Post 2009-03-12T13:57:58-04:00 400602 6962 2009-03-12T13:57:58-04:00 <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/rayfrenden/2697002688/" title="Go, Meme, Go by Ray Frenden, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3042/2697002688_4c11ccd9a7_o.png" width="540" height="452" alt="Go, Meme, Go" /></a> 15452 Post 2009-03-12T14:06:07-04:00 400613 5738 2009-03-12T14:06:07-04:00 Great insight. I've actually sold a few DBH 'rejects' at $500 because they had high votes but never got printed. 15452 Post 2009-03-12T14:07:40-04:00 400616 1259 2009-03-12T14:07:40-04:00 <blockquote><cite>steven said:</cite> I think it's a great idea. And why should we limit ourselves to only doing work for under a certain amount because smaller companies with smaller budgets shout about crazy prices? Why are the prices crazy? If I sell a shirt design for $400 and the client goes on to sell 10,000 worldwide, was it a good or a bad investment? Then people would be telling me I didn't get enough for that piece. Aside from that, I think Kingstrike is a great idea. We need to wisen up as an industry and stop apologising for what we charge because the guy paying thinks we should. <img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3007/2699362896_914104675b.jpg?v=0" /> Go Kingstrike, GO!</blockquote> +100. All art aside $400 is definitely not an outrageous price to sell a design at. You can argue that the current designs on Kingstrike aren't worth that, but it's all subjective. If you design shirts for a living you probably wouldn't be selling them at $200/ea. You would have to do over 100 designs/yr just to pull in a below average income. 15452 Post 2009-03-12T14:09:46-04:00 400619 2111 2009-03-12T14:11:12-04:00 <blockquote><cite>ste7en said:</cite> The idea that the designs are "rejected" is a unique construct of the wide popularity of e-competitions. When a design doesn't print at a contest, I wouldn't call it a reject, mainly because it may have been heavily embraced and scored extremely well. These sites can't print everything. In fact, all my designs that have scored higher than 3 have not printed at Threadless. The weirdest thing is that, as a freelance apparel designer, most of my custom commissions that are guided and shaped by companies, that never go up for some vote, would score terribly at Threadless or DBH, but do very well for their respective companies (I hope, or I don't know why I get repeat buisness). So thinking about something as a reject, at least in a negative connotation, because it didn't win an online competition is kinda weak.</blockquote> I was thinking of more to rejected and unapproved artwork for a band/apparel company/label. I don't think a label will want to buy a design for $400 that was pitched to a band for less than that and end up getting rejected. I am up for paying designers for what they are worth and having as many outlet as possible to get their designs out that but at the end of the day, companies and label who can pay the prices of $400 and above will probably not buy a design straight off from the site. They will rather go to the artist straight for the particular kind of look that they are seeking. 15452 Post 2009-03-12T14:10:50-04:00 400620 5512 2009-03-12T14:20:21-04:00 <blockquote><cite>mathcasey said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>ste7en said:</cite> The idea that the designs are "rejected" is a unique construct of the wide popularity of e-competitions. When a design doesn't print at a contest, I wouldn't call it a reject, mainly because it may have been heavily embraced and scored extremely well. These sites can't print everything. In fact, all my designs that have scored higher than 3 have not printed at Threadless. The weirdest thing is that, as a freelance apparel designer, most of my custom commissions that are guided and shaped by companies, that never go up for some vote, would score terribly at Threadless or DBH, but do very well for their respective companies (I hope, or I don't know why I get repeat buisness). So thinking about something as a reject, at least in a negative connotation, because it didn't win an online competition is kinda weak.</blockquote> I was thinking of more to a reject artwork for a band/apparel company/label.</blockquote> The band tee attitude of rejected work is a microcosm. Most design work doesn't work this way. You make a piece till it is right via an open dialog with rounds of changes. I really hate the band shirt design model and mentality. It's a spec work fest. 15452 Post 2009-03-12T14:14:30-04:00 400624 5738 2009-03-12T14:16:12-04:00 <blockquote><cite>FRENDEN said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>mathcasey said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>ste7en said:</cite> The idea that the designs are "rejected" is a unique construct of the wide popularity of e-competitions. When a design doesn't print at a contest, I wouldn't call it a reject, mainly because it may have been heavily embraced and scored extremely well. These sites can't print everything. In fact, all my designs that have scored higher than 3 have not printed at Threadless. The weirdest thing is that, as a freelance apparel designer, most of my custom commissions that are guided and shaped by companies, that never go up for some vote, would score terribly at Threadless or DBH, but do very well for their respective companies (I hope, or I don't know why I get repeat buisness). So thinking about something as a reject, at least in a negative connotation, because it didn't win an online competition is kinda weak.</blockquote> I was thinking of more to a reject artwork for a band/apparel company/label.</blockquote> The band tee attitude of rejected work is a microcosm. Most design work doesn't work this way. You make a piece till it is right via an open dialog with rounds of changes. I really hate the band shirt design model and mentality. It's a spec work fest.</blockquote> That was an example my friend and unfortunately not everyone works the same way as you. Honestly, spec work is kinda advantageous for companies and the like seeking design work, but i really feel for the artists and designers that work hard to come out with a design. I personally won't call for spec work, as i won't want to be a recipient of that too. 15452 Post 2009-03-12T14:31:56-04:00 400646 5512 2009-03-12T14:32:18-04:00 <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v178/burlymugg/?action=view&current=fuckspec.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v178/burlymugg/fuckspec.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a> 15452 Post 2009-03-12T14:39:29-04:00 400652 1106 2009-03-12T14:39:29-04:00 <blockquote><cite>skull with hair said:</cite> <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v178/burlymugg/?action=view&current=fuckspec.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v178/burlymugg/fuckspec.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a></blockquote> Yes totally agree, but more education is needed to educate people about it. Fuck those who don't give a shit after knowing it though. 15452 Post 2009-03-12T14:42:49-04:00 400654 5512 2009-03-12T14:42:49-04:00 <blockquote><cite>FRENDEN said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>mathcasey said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>ste7en said:</cite> The idea that the designs are "rejected" is a unique construct of the wide popularity of e-competitions. When a design doesn't print at a contest, I wouldn't call it a reject, mainly because it may have been heavily embraced and scored extremely well. These sites can't print everything. In fact, all my designs that have scored higher than 3 have not printed at Threadless. The weirdest thing is that, as a freelance apparel designer, most of my custom commissions that are guided and shaped by companies, that never go up for some vote, would score terribly at Threadless or DBH, but do very well for their respective companies (I hope, or I don't know why I get repeat buisness). So thinking about something as a reject, at least in a negative connotation, because it didn't win an online competition is kinda weak.</blockquote> I was thinking of more to a reject artwork for a band/apparel company/label.</blockquote> The band tee attitude of rejected work is a microcosm. Most design work doesn't work this way. You make a piece till it is right via an open dialog with rounds of changes. I really hate the band shirt design model and mentality. It's a spec work fest.</blockquote> Hear hear. I've only done a couple of shirts 'the band way'. They really are spare time things and certainly not a route I'd like to pursue full time - hell, tshirts in general aren't something I'd want to pursue full time. This industry should be about so much more than that. 15452 Post 2009-03-12T14:49:31-04:00 400659 71 2009-03-12T14:49:31-04:00 Steven, you pay less than $500, but you get what you pay for! I agree. 15452 Post 2009-03-12T14:56:50-04:00 400665 5738 2009-03-12T14:57:17-04:00 well, i love the mickey mouse burger design, and definitely think it's worth $400, in regards to the comment made above. 15452 Post 2009-03-12T15:04:00-04:00 400672 8977 2009-03-12T15:04:00-04:00 Me too. 15452 Post 2009-03-12T15:06:18-04:00 400674 5738 2009-03-12T15:06:18-04:00 I didn't like the Lauren Albert one at first, but after having a look at the site, I would pay every penny for that design. I guess a little teamwork never hurts. I don't have anything against lowballers per say, everyone starts somewhere, but it's a good idea to have a competitive rate for the sake of the other designers out there, clients need to understand art cost money. It's a matter of respect. We need each other after all. Great piece by the way Julia 15452 Post 2009-03-12T15:10:18-04:00 400680 506 2009-03-12T15:11:43-04:00 I sent in a invite request... just waiting now. 15452 Post 2009-03-12T15:10:28-04:00 400681 6901 2009-03-12T15:10:28-04:00 me too, that shirt is a bargain at $400 also, cool site! 15452 Post 2009-03-12T15:11:46-04:00 400684 7336 2009-03-12T15:11:46-04:00 thanks quaker! i was really excited to see a lauren albert piece on there. i've been a fan of her stuff for a while now. 15452 Post 2009-03-12T15:22:46-04:00 400690 8977 2009-03-12T15:22:46-04:00 Hey Ray, who determines the price of the artwork? The design or Kingstrike? Or a negotiation between the two? 15452 Post 2009-03-12T15:38:24-04:00 400715 2734 2009-03-12T15:38:24-04:00 Up to the designer. 15452 Post 2009-03-12T15:38:54-04:00 400717 5738 2009-03-12T15:38:54-04:00 <img src="http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd122/Supafly4593/pugking.jpg?t=1236889096" /> 15452 Post 2009-03-12T16:18:11-04:00 400755 9706 2009-03-12T16:18:25-04:00 <blockquote><cite>RobotTiger said:</cite> <img src="http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd122/Supafly4593/pugking.jpg?t=1236889096" /></blockquote> nomorepugsdammit:) 15452 Post 2009-03-12T16:25:23-04:00 400764 3643 2009-03-12T16:25:23-04:00 <img src="http://www.grabup.com/uploads/9948a758a7fe316f444e6918f0aaf174.png" /> 15452 Post 2009-03-12T16:28:52-04:00 400768 506 2009-03-12T16:28:52-04:00 Ray are you associated with this site at all or just a random find? I wouldn't mind chatting with these guys about an idea i have... 15452 Post 2009-03-12T19:24:18-04:00 400984 11937 2009-03-12T19:24:18-04:00 it's Reilly's thing 15452 Post 2009-03-12T20:03:07-04:00 401006 71 2009-03-12T20:03:07-04:00 <blockquote><cite>steven said:</cite> it's Reilly's thing</blockquote> Haha didn't know Reilly was behind all of this! 15452 Post 2009-03-12T20:41:12-04:00 401035 1259 2009-03-12T20:41:12-04:00 reilly's behind most things. the moon landings? that was him. ;) 15452 Post 2009-03-12T20:46:25-04:00 401041 71 2009-03-12T20:46:25-04:00 CATS OUT OF THE BAG! Ha ha, sorry I would have been in here earlier but I've been pretty busy. I've been quietly working on this project for almost 2 years. Progress had been slowing down more and more until I partnered up with a stupid talented developer, Andrew. Together, we are TEAM KINGSTRIKE. 15452 Post 2009-03-12T20:55:07-04:00 401048 40 2009-03-12T20:55:07-04:00 <img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3296/2828524119_17b1b573cf_o.jpg" /> 15452 Post 2009-03-12T20:57:32-04:00 401052 574 2009-03-12T20:57:32-04:00 <blockquote><cite>Reilly said:</cite> CATS OUT OF THE BAG! Ha ha, sorry I would have been in here earlier but I've been pretty busy. I've been quietly working on this project for almost 2 years. Progress had been slowing down more and more until I partnered up with a stupid talented developer, Andrew. Together, we are TEAM KINGSTRIKE.</blockquote> Looks good man! I wish you success. It would've been cooler if it was TEAM REILLY-MOSS. ha! 15452 Post 2009-03-12T20:58:58-04:00 401053 1259 2009-03-12T20:58:58-04:00 <blockquote><cite>sonmi said:</cite> well, i love the mickey mouse burger design, and definitely think it's worth $400, in regards to the comment made above.</blockquote> lmao 15452 Post 2009-03-12T21:05:57-04:00 401058 2418 2009-03-12T21:05:57-04:00 <blockquote><cite>i came from nothing said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>sonmi said:</cite> well, i love the mickey mouse burger design, and definitely think it's worth $400, in regards to the comment made above.</blockquote> lmao</blockquote> I'm glad you find valuing designers fairly so hilarious. 15452 Post 2009-03-12T21:17:24-04:00 401076 5738 2009-03-12T21:17:24-04:00 I never understand the constant arguing over rates....I bet there isn't one person here who has not done a design for less than $400.00.....And until I am better known.....I need money and yeah I am not selling them for less than a hundred.....but if someone wants to pay me 150.000 for a design buried under another 100 designs I have...you bet your ass I am selling it....anyways i have no problem with that site at all...I think it could work out nicely. 15452 Post 2009-03-12T21:24:35-04:00 401084 3021 2009-03-12T21:24:35-04:00 I've never seen such a self devaluing industry. Emptees is like a GUI for Craig's List jobs. 15452 Post 2009-03-12T21:29:29-04:00 401094 5738 2009-03-12T21:29:29-04:00 <blockquote><cite>FRENDEN said:</cite> I've never seen such a self devaluing industry. Emptees is like a GUI for Craig's List jobs.</blockquote> I think this is art in general everyone is trying to swim to the life raft...but there are only so many boats available...until that changes I think it will always be this way 15452 Post 2009-03-12T21:31:47-04:00 401099 3021 2009-03-12T21:39:02-04:00 want to make more $ simply find better clients ive sold designs for over $300-400 to corporate companies, with basic designs required... it's not as fun as band/indie stuff tho. 15452 Post 2009-03-12T21:47:38-04:00 401120 3804 2009-03-12T21:47:59-04:00 i just wanna say, I was actually surprised at the rate. what with the artists involved. I mean, by my calculations this is probably the lowest rate some of them have been paid for a shirt design. 15452 Post 2009-03-12T22:06:00-04:00 401138 7336 2009-03-12T22:06:00-04:00 People can undervalue themselves as much as they like, but questioning the value of others' stuff is not cool. 15452 Post 2009-03-12T22:19:38-04:00 401150 42 2009-03-12T22:19:38-04:00 i just realized i could start a line with Frenden and Sonmi for $800 I don't wanna make shirts and it is still damn tempting 15452 Post 2009-03-12T22:22:19-04:00 401153 7336 2009-03-12T22:22:19-04:00 /me supports Reilly and reasonable pay. 15452 Post 2009-03-13T00:13:48-04:00 401334 997 2009-03-13T00:13:48-04:00 Knowing Reilly is behind this makes me happy inside. 15452 Post 2009-03-13T00:18:37-04:00 401341 7003 2009-03-13T00:18:37-04:00 <blockquote><cite>isaboa said:</cite> i just realized i could start a line with Frenden and Sonmi for $800 I don't wanna make shirts and it is still damn tempting</blockquote> i thought the same 15452 Post 2009-03-13T01:07:57-04:00 401390 3804 2009-03-13T01:07:57-04:00 oh Reilly, i've sent such a stuck up mail... well, nice job mate! very nice! 15452 Post 2009-03-13T04:00:09-04:00 401510 3643 2009-03-13T04:00:09-04:00 <b>Reilly</b> for great justice. 15452 Post 2009-03-13T04:03:48-04:00 401511 997 2009-03-13T04:03:48-04:00 From a buyers point of view the fee for the art not only includes the art itself but the fact that it's available immediately which some companies might find beneficial. Some comanies might like the fact they don't have to use their own imagination ha ha. But from the artists point of view would you like a little control over who buys your designs or do you really don't mind ? And that is meant as a genuine question :) 15452 Post 2009-03-13T04:36:42-04:00 401529 6159 2009-03-13T04:36:42-04:00 Very interesting site, and Sonmi shirt is awesome. If invited... Do you have to use your full name? No silly internerd nicknames allowed? 15452 Post 2009-03-13T04:53:38-04:00 401531 5167 2009-03-13T04:53:38-04:00 <blockquote><cite>FRENDEN said:</cite> I've never seen such a self devaluing industry. Emptees is like a GUI for Craig's List jobs.</blockquote> Totally. Don't get me wrong, I'll work for less if I feel there's something else to be gained from it - most of us would - but the attitude to pricing here is crazy. I've got a mortgage, 2 kids and a wife, and you can bet your ass that after doing this for 12 years, I'm going to put a value on it. 15452 Post 2009-03-13T06:14:14-04:00 401561 71 2009-03-13T06:14:14-04:00 <img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3458/3351382698_fae74c7bf7_m.jpg" /> 15452 Post 2009-03-13T06:53:28-04:00 401583 4864 2009-03-13T06:53:28-04:00 <a href="http://s533.photobucket.com/albums/ee338/110specialblack/diverses/?action=view&current=uglyking.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i533.photobucket.com/albums/ee338/110specialblack/diverses/uglyking.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a> 15452 Post 2009-03-13T07:15:59-04:00 401597 9980 2009-03-13T07:15:59-04:00 <img src="http://www.dobi.nu/myphotos/kingstrike.jpg" /> 15452 Post 2009-03-13T07:18:09-04:00 401598 14 2009-03-13T07:18:09-04:00 <blockquote><cite>dobi said:</cite> <img src="http://www.dobi.nu/myphotos/kingstrike.jpg" /></blockquote> lol A master craftsman as always Rob. 15452 Post 2009-03-13T08:27:23-04:00 401622 506 2009-03-13T08:27:23-04:00 <blockquote><cite>Moss said:</cite> People can undervalue themselves as much as they like, but questioning the value of others' stuff is not cool.</blockquote> pretty much sums it up for me 15452 Post 2009-03-13T10:23:20-04:00 401703 1146 2009-03-13T10:23:20-04:00 <blockquote><cite>derekdeal said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>Moss said:</cite> People can undervalue themselves as much as they like, but questioning the value of others' stuff is not cool.</blockquote> pretty much sums it up for me</blockquote> I don't think people should value other's stuff either, but something is only worth what someone will pay for it anyways. Obviously that means that the range of an item's value can be massive, purely because if one person wants to pay $1000 for something then it's worth that, even if the next highest amount someone is willing to pay is only 50% of that. I'm looking forward to seeing this site evolve though, i think it could be huge. 15452 Post 2009-03-13T10:40:41-04:00 401715 6884 2009-03-13T10:40:41-04:00 <blockquote><cite>i came from nothing said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>sonmi said:</cite> well, i love the mickey mouse burger design, and definitely think it's worth $400, in regards to the comment made above.</blockquote> lmao</blockquote> your opinions here are pointless as you are not a designer you are a buyer and of course you want to undervalue designers its great for you. but i have seen your line. you get what you pay for i supose 15452 Post 2009-03-13T10:40:49-04:00 401716 9442 2009-03-13T10:40:49-04:00 No ones opinion is pointless here. Group hug before this gets nasty. 15452 Post 2009-03-13T10:46:34-04:00 401725 506 2009-03-13T10:46:34-04:00 <blockquote><cite>quakerninja said:</cite> No ones opinion is pointless here. Group hug before this gets nasty.</blockquote> Aww i'd like a hug. I'd rather rub GM's beard first, but a hug will suffice i suppose. 15452 Post 2009-03-13T10:51:45-04:00 401729 6884 2009-03-13T10:51:45-04:00 <blockquote><cite>Moss said:</cite> People can undervalue themselves as much as they like, but questioning the value of others' stuff is not cool.</blockquote> srsly. 15452 Post 2009-03-13T11:55:34-04:00 401779 8977 2009-03-13T11:55:34-04:00 I actually don't think $400 is a lot of money to most companies. I would and do sell stuff for less but only if I have a good relationship with the buyer. My only concern is for the artist not knowing who buys their work and where it ends up. I'm sure Reilly has this covered tho. The invite only thing is probably not a bad thing but can artists already there invite others? 15452 Post 2009-03-13T12:23:23-04:00 401811 2991 2009-03-13T12:23:23-04:00 Wotto, to answer your last question, no. 15452 Post 2009-03-13T12:29:01-04:00 401817 5738 2009-03-13T12:29:01-04:00 <blockquote><cite>FRENDEN said:</cite> Wotto, to answer your last question, no.</blockquote> So the company (Reilly) decides who gets in? 15452 Post 2009-03-13T12:34:24-04:00 401822 2991 2009-03-13T12:34:24-04:00 <blockquote><cite>wotto said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>FRENDEN said:</cite> Wotto, to answer your last question, no.</blockquote> So the company (Reilly) decides who gets in?</blockquote> Understand that, in speaking on his behalf, I'm speculating a bit; yeah, I assume he has final say. 15452 Post 2009-03-13T12:49:48-04:00 401842 5738 2009-03-13T12:49:48-04:00 <blockquote><cite>FRENDEN said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>wotto said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>FRENDEN said:</cite> Wotto, to answer your last question, no.</blockquote> So the company (Reilly) decides who gets in?</blockquote> Understand that, in speaking on his behalf, I'm speculating a bit; yeah, I assume he has final say.</blockquote> cool bananas. 15452 Post 2009-03-13T12:54:19-04:00 401851 2991 2009-03-13T12:54:19-04:00 <img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3640/3351976302_25f383c017.jpg"> 15452 Post 2009-03-13T13:13:44-04:00 401895 8977 2009-03-13T13:13:44-04:00 <blockquote><cite>chris666 said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>i came from nothing said:</cite> <blockquote><cite>sonmi said:</cite> well, i love the mickey mouse burger design, and definitely think it's worth $400, in regards to the comment made above.</blockquote> lmao</blockquote> your opinions here are pointless as you are not a designer you are a buyer and of course you want to undervalue designers its great for you. but i have seen your line. you get what you pay for i supose</blockquote> heeey.. i sold a design to him :( but forreal.. i really dig this thing.. alot 15452 Post 2009-03-13T18:03:46-04:00 402190 2870 2009-03-13T18:05:57-04:00 I actually think the site is cool. I think I will look for an invite. 15452 Post 2009-03-13T20:41:50-04:00 402330 253 2009-03-13T20:41:50-04:00 <blockquote><cite>sonmi said:</cite> <img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3640/3351976302_25f383c017.jpg"></blockquote> amazing 15452 Post 2009-03-13T22:16:59-04:00 402393 9706 2009-03-13T22:16:59-04:00 <img src="http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/3345/catstrikei.jpg"> 15452 Post 2009-03-13T22:40:12-04:00 402412 2985 2009-03-13T22:41:10-04:00 mine... <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v178/burlymugg/?action=view&current=Kingstrike_SWH.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v178/burlymugg/Kingstrike_SWH.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a> 15452 Post 2009-03-13T23:38:58-04:00 402442 1106 2009-03-13T23:38:58-04:00 <blockquote><cite>jublin said:</cite> <img src="http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/3345/catstrikei.jpg"></blockquote> i'm gonna cut you 15452 Post 2009-03-14T12:05:33-04:00 402992 8977 2009-03-14T12:05:33-04:00 Heh. 15452 Post 2009-03-14T12:06:01-04:00 402993 12676 2009-03-14T12:06:01-04:00 <img src="http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk103/generikb/kingstrike.jpg" /> (tee hee) Reilly you get my email buddeh? 15452 Post 2009-03-14T12:20:32-04:00 403016 11937 2009-03-14T12:20:32-04:00 <img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3245/3353397437_afebd118da.jpg"> 15452 Post 2009-03-14T12:57:39-04:00 403070 8977 2009-03-14T12:57:39-04:00 Now you're just making me hungry. 15452 Post 2009-03-14T13:26:26-04:00 403123 12676 2009-03-14T13:26:26-04:00 that burger is winking at me. did you just wink at me burger? 15452 Post 2009-03-14T14:56:39-04:00 403225 71 2009-03-14T14:56:39-04:00 <blockquote><cite>sonmi said:</cite> <img src="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3245/3353397437_afebd118da.jpg"></blockquote> YES 15452 Post 2009-03-14T15:07:12-04:00 403237 3248 2009-03-14T15:07:12-04:00 Jud, sorry I'm at SXSW. I'll try to hit you back tonight. Just had a talk with one of the owners of JakPrints, cool guy. 15452 Post 2009-03-14T15:23:46-04:00 403258 40 2009-03-14T15:23:46-04:00 use my logo for your site. deal. 15452 Post 2009-03-14T15:33:47-04:00 403272 2985 2009-03-14T15:33:47-04:00 I want that mickeyburger nom nom nom 15452 Post 2009-03-14T15:46:59-04:00 403290 4122 2009-03-14T15:46:59-04:00 <blockquote><cite>Reilly said:</cite> Jud, sorry I'm at SXSW. I'll try to hit you back tonight. Just had a talk with one of the owners of JakPrints, cool guy.</blockquote> ahhh ok no problem man, just catch me whenever. 15452 Post 2009-03-14T20:54:26-04:00 403613 11937 2009-03-14T20:54:26-04:00 8 new designs up 15452 Post 2009-03-23T14:06:02-04:00 412988 40 2009-03-23T14:06:02-04:00 Ha ha, I have a blank .AI file if you guys want to play around with it. 15452 Post 2009-03-24T12:48:31-04:00 414041 40 2009-03-24T12:48:31-04:00 <blockquote><cite>Reilly said:</cite> Ha ha, I have a blank .AI file if you guys want to play around with it.</blockquote> <blockquote><cite>Reilly said:</cite> Ha ha, I have a blank .AI file if you guys want to play around with it.</blockquote> email it to me? michaelshantzart@hotmail.com 15452 Post 2009-03-24T13:54:56-04:00 414156 1249 2009-03-24T13:54:56-04:00 <blockquote><cite>Reilly said:</cite> Ha ha, I have a blank .AI file if you guys want to play around with it.</blockquote> dude shoot me that. you should get a shirt printed with all of these on them 15452 Post 2009-03-24T14:21:03-04:00 414192 8848 2009-03-24T14:21:03-04:00 Did someone already made some money from this? 15452 Post 2009-03-24T15:11:51-04:00 414244 12580 2009-03-24T15:11:51-04:00 <blockquote><cite>Reilly said:</cite> Ha ha, I have a blank .AI file if you guys want to play around with it.</blockquote> Reilly, would you please send one my way, too? Thank you! 15452 Post 2009-03-24T21:07:13-04:00 414649 7003 2009-03-24T21:07:13-04:00 Here dudes. <a href="http://reillystroope.com/downloads/kinghead.ai">Blank Kingstrike face</a> Here's the flickr pool with all the other faces so far. <a href="http://www.flickr.com/groups/kingstrike/">Kingstrike on flickr</a> Supermalyna, I haven't had time to send out promotional mailers yet, so far everything is word of mouth. I just needed to get the site up before SXSW interactive. I could definitely use everyone's help spreading the word. As for the promo stuff, I'm either going to go with shirts or a card deck. I'll let you guys know which I decide on, so you can grab some at cost if you want. 15452 Post 2009-03-24T21:25:45-04:00 414666 40 2009-03-24T21:27:26-04:00 This is a killer idea....applied for an invite...this might help. <img src="http://eternyl.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/king_strike.jpg" /> 15452 Post 2009-03-24T22:20:56-04:00 414709 4344 2009-03-24T22:20:56-04:00 SOLD <img src="http://kingstrike.com/static/designs/85/original/full.jpg" /> 15452 Post 2009-03-27T12:53:12-04:00 417925 3552 2009-03-27T12:53:12-04:00 Woo! 15452 Post 2009-03-27T12:55:29-04:00 417931 5738 2009-03-27T12:55:29-04:00 Look, I'm acting all official with a new username n' stuff. 15452 Post 2009-03-27T12:57:21-04:00 417939 3552 2009-03-27T12:57:21-04:00 <blockquote><cite>skull with hair said:</cite> mine... <a href="http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v178/burlymugg/?action=view&current=Kingstrike_SWH.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v178/burlymugg/Kingstrike_SWH.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a></blockquote> we love it! :D 15452 Post 2009-03-27T12:58:19-04:00 417942 2872 2009-03-27T12:58:19-04:00 <a href="" target="_blank"><img src="http://i269.photobucket.com/albums/jj42/birdie3431/kindstrikelogothingy.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a> 15452 Post 2009-03-27T13:34:52-04:00 417979 1876 2009-03-27T13:35:00-04:00 congrats willypiva on the first sale! nice one mate (if you ever decide to come here and read this). 15452 Post 2009-03-27T13:41:48-04:00 417988 71 2009-03-27T13:41:48-04:00 Second sale actually. This was sold a few days ago. <img src="http://kingstrike.com/static/designs/90/original/full.jpg?1237494372" /> 15452 Post 2009-03-27T13:43:15-04:00 417989 3552 2009-03-27T13:43:15-04:00 yesssss 15452 Post 2009-03-27T13:45:35-04:00 417994 9980 2009-03-27T13:45:35-04:00 what?!! that thing's never worth $400 ;) 15452 Post 2009-03-27T14:08:37-04:00 418019 71 2009-03-27T14:08:37-04:00 i kno rite?! 15452 Post 2009-03-27T14:16:28-04:00 418028 40 2009-03-27T14:16:28-04:00 i got rejected ;( 15452 Post 2009-03-27T15:08:05-04:00 418081 9706 2009-03-27T15:08:05-04:00 I would be curious to find out what exactly the criteria for getting accepted to the site is. 15452 Post 2009-03-27T15:30:17-04:00 418106 4171 2009-03-27T15:30:17-04:00 No specific criteria, our main goal is to service a wide range of styles and subject matter. 15452 Post 2009-03-27T15:50:38-04:00 418128 3552 2009-03-27T15:50:38-04:00 i want to join... 15452 Post 2009-03-27T15:56:13-04:00 418138 2870 2009-03-27T15:56:13-04:00 <blockquote><cite>kingstrike said:</cite> No specific criteria, our main goal is to service a wide range of styles and subject matter.</blockquote> So are you eventually going to open the floodgates and let more artists in or is it going to stay exclusive to artists you guys review and decide to accept? I'm just trying to figure out how this thing is going to work. 15452 Post 2009-03-27T16:45:08-04:00 418197 4171 2009-03-27T16:45:08-04:00 At the moment the plan is to keep it closed. We may at some point add a public side, but that's up in the air. It would be difficult since we have to check each design to make sure the files are print ready before we publish them to the site. 15452 Post 2009-03-27T17:10:19-04:00 418212 3552 2009-03-27T17:10:19-04:00 Now that some have been sold, I really wish there was a way of knowing when the designs are printed and where I can buy the shirt. Can you make this happen or will I just have to use the google in a few months, and hope I can find it. 15452 Post 2009-03-27T18:12:43-04:00 418280 506 2009-03-27T18:12:43-04:00 Once a design is printed the page will link to the place you can purchase them. This is entirely up to the customer though. They also have the choice to leave the design on Kingstrike or take it down after purchase. The High 4 design was left up and just marked as sold. The HRH design was taken down, but will pop back up once it's been printed. 15452 Post 2009-03-27T18:17:32-04:00 418293 3552 2009-03-27T18:17:53-04:00 oh good thanks. 15452 Post 2009-03-27T18:22:04-04:00 418298 506 2009-03-27T18:22:04-04:00 We probably should have launched with a couple printed designs just to get the point across. 15452 Post 2009-03-27T18:38:59-04:00 418315 3552 2009-03-27T18:38:59-04:00 <blockquote><cite>aleph13 said:</cite> Knowing Reilly is behind this makes me happy inside.</blockquote> my exact thought 15452 Post 2009-03-27T18:56:44-04:00 418324 884 2009-03-27T18:56:44-04:00 aw. reilly doesn't like my art :( haha. 15452 Post 2009-03-27T18:59:12-04:00 418326 1087 2009-03-27T18:59:12-04:00 As I said earlier, we're trying to keep the styles and subject matter as wide as possible. Most of you have some great work, but we don't want to flood the site with tons of skull, vomit, zombie etc. designs. I'm not saying they're bad, but you should see amount of artists that emailed us specializing in that style. I hope you guys aren't offended, but I understand that the way we work won't please everyone. 15452 Post 2009-03-27T19:07:30-04:00 418331 3552 2009-03-27T19:08:08-04:00 <blockquote><cite>kingstrike said:</cite> At the moment the plan is to keep it closed. We may at some point add a public side, but that's up in the air. It would be difficult since we have to check each design to make sure the files are print ready before we publish them to the site.</blockquote> ok so then do you judge the designs that go up per design submitted or once you are officially a part of the site can you submit any art you have, as long as it is a print ready format. On a related note, when an artist wants to be part of the site do you judge is entire portfolio to see the value of their entire body of work, or do you just evaluate the art they want submitted to your site. I am only grillin you because I think its a great idea. 15452 Post 2009-03-27T19:20:13-04:00 418337 4171 2009-03-27T19:20:13-04:00 I have a lot of trust in the artists involved, but if something looks out of place, I'll do something about it. When reviewing invite requests I go over both the portfolio and any selected works they might have provided. 15452 Post 2009-03-27T19:42:24-04:00 418358 3552 2009-03-27T19:42:24-04:00 <blockquote><cite>Reilly said:</cite> Here dudes. <a href="http://reillystroope.com/downloads/kinghead.ai">Blank Kingstrike face</a> Here's the flickr pool with all the other faces so far. <a href="http://www.flickr.com/groups/kingstrike/">Kingstrike on flickr</a> your new avatar is fucking awesome, site looks great too. Supermalyna, I haven't had time to send out promotional mailers yet, so far everything is word of mouth. I just needed to get the site up before SXSW interactive. I could definitely use everyone's help spreading the word. As for the promo stuff, I'm either going to go with shirts or a card deck. I'll let you guys know which I decide on, so you can grab some at cost if you want.</blockquote> 15452 Post 2009-03-27T21:04:06-04:00 418405 1585 2009-03-27T21:04:06-04:00 9 New designs going up at 12am PST 15452 Post 2009-03-30T13:12:11-04:00 420414 3552 2009-03-30T13:12:11-04:00 I'm on.. YEAYUH! 15452 Post 2009-03-31T04:35:58-04:00 421120 12580 2009-03-31T04:35:58-04:00 Congrats man - I got rejected :) 15452 Post 2009-03-31T04:39:28-04:00 421121 3347 2009-03-31T04:39:28-04:00 <blockquote><cite>supermalyna said:</cite> I'm on.. YEAYUH!</blockquote> !!!!!! 15452 Post 2009-03-31T04:46:57-04:00 421125 1106 2009-03-31T04:46:57-04:00 <blockquote><cite>ENDOR said:</cite> Congrats man - I got rejected :)</blockquote> Your smile made me feel swagger ;< (it's the right word?) 15452 Post 2009-03-31T05:03:57-04:00 421130 12580 2009-03-31T05:03:57-04:00 Just added an RSS feed! Enjoy. http://kingstrike.com/news_posts.rss 15452 Post 2009-04-03T12:43:29-04:00 425413 3552 2009-04-03T12:43:29-04:00 Weeee RSS :) 15452 Post 2009-04-05T06:12:28-04:00 427275 3005 2009-04-05T06:12:28-04:00 Reilly, awesome idea. This has huge potential, and I hope it explodes. It's great to see people doing innovative things in the apparel design realm, and servicing artists like this. Cool beans. 15452 Post 2009-04-05T12:05:34-04:00 427402 1490 2009-04-05T12:05:34-04:00 Someone buy sonmi's I want that shirt. 15452 Post 2009-04-05T12:16:35-04:00 427411 506 2009-04-05T12:16:35-04:00 brilliant idea. it's good to see an artist marketplace specifically aimed at apparel companies looking for new designs. I wish it was more open-ended though. I know it's up to the folks at kingstrike to determine what content goes up on their site but one man's garbage is another man's treasure. 15452 Post 2009-04-05T12:54:12-04:00 427439 12224 2009-04-05T12:54:12-04:00 Good luck getting approved :/ 15452 Post 2009-04-05T13:00:31-04:00 427441 3764 2009-04-05T13:00:31-04:00 still waiting for an invite, or do we sub now? 15452 Post 2009-04-05T13:02:41-04:00 427442 2991 2009-04-05T13:02:41-04:00 still pleading;) 15452 Post 2009-04-05T16:21:17-04:00 427570 3643 2009-04-05T16:21:17-04:00 Sorry, I've been busy. I'll try to go through the emails tonight. Added 4 new designs today as well! 15452 Post 2009-04-06T20:56:59-04:00 429268 3552 2009-04-06T20:57:17-04:00 Two little updates. First, an interview over at <a href="http://rumplo.com/blog/">Rumplo.</a> Second we've set up a twitter account for a heads up on updates to the site. <a href="http://twitter.com/kingstrike">twitter.com/kingstrike</a> 15452 Post 2009-04-14T13:37:31-04:00 440269 3552 2009-04-14T13:37:51-04:00 Forgot to mention 5 new designs were added yesterday. Really digging this one by Jan Avendano <a href="http://kingstrike.com/designs/105"><img src="http://kingstrike.com/static/designs/105/original/full.jpg?1239035561" /></a> 15452 Post 2009-04-17T05:21:19-04:00 454971 3552 2009-04-17T05:21:19-04:00 <img src="http://kingstrike.com/static/designs/97/original/full.jpg" /> $250 for that...Wow...just wow. I think this site is a good idea and definitely think it'll be very helpful to artists out there, but looking at that design is disappointing. 15452 Post 2009-04-17T06:12:13-04:00 455131 5248 2009-04-17T06:12:13-04:00 <blockquote><cite>JoeBaronDesign said:</cite> <img src="http://kingstrike.com/static/designs/97/original/full.jpg" /> $250 for that...Wow...just wow. I think this site is a good idea and definitely think it'll be very helpful to artists out there, but looking at that design is disappointing.</blockquote> That is a SOLID design. I loves it. 15452 Post 2009-04-17T06:18:47-04:00 455151 3005 2009-04-17T06:18:47-04:00 <blockquote><cite>JoeBaronDesign said:</cite> <img src="http://kingstrike.com/static/designs/97/original/full.jpg" /> $250 for that...Wow...just wow. I think this site is a good idea and definitely think it'll be very helpful to artists out there, but looking at that design is disappointing.</blockquote> I think it's preferential. I'm sure this is worth $0 to some and $250 or more to others. 15452 Post 2009-04-17T06:20:11-04:00 455161 1259 2009-04-17T06:20:11-04:00 Sneak peak brodudes. <img src="http://kingstrike.com/static/designs/114/original/detail.gif" width="200"> <img src="http://kingstrike.com/static/designs/113/original/placement.gif" width="200"><img src="http://kingstrike.com/static/designs/112/original/placement.gif" width="200"><img src="http://kingstrike.com/static/designs/111/original/placement.jpg" width="200"><img src="http://kingstrike.com/static/designs/110/original/placement.jpg" width="200"> Tonight at 12am PST 15452 Post 2009-04-27T18:07:35-04:00 577781 3552 2009-04-27T18:08:00-04:00 hmm. nice artwork. Id like to submit some artwork to KS. www.hiltmandesigns.com 15452 Post 2009-04-27T20:18:03-04:00 579911 6901 2009-04-27T20:18:03-04:00 ran across this somehow, FANTASTIC IDEA! 15452 Post 2009-04-27T21:01:29-04:00 580481 5504 2009-04-27T21:01:29-04:00 ohh badass!! .. damnit i need to submit still i almost forgot 15452 Post 2009-04-27T21:06:38-04:00 580521 2870 2009-04-27T21:06:38-04:00 Thanks, we're proud of it. And I almost forgot to mention, one more design has been added to tonight's update. <img src="http://kingstrike.com/static/designs/115/original/placement.jpg" width="200"> 15452 Post 2009-04-27T21:09:47-04:00 580591 3552 2009-04-27T21:09:47-04:00 Hopefully one more will be added ;) 15452 Post 2009-04-27T21:28:40-04:00 580871 9179 2009-04-27T21:28:40-04:00 Ha ha, ferreals? FINE! 15452 Post 2009-04-27T21:43:39-04:00 581171 3552 2009-04-27T21:43:39-04:00 One more, ladies and gentlemen. <img src="http://kingstrike.com/static/designs/116/original/placement.jpg" width="200"> 15452 Post 2009-04-27T21:44:54-04:00 581181 3552 2009-04-27T21:44:54-04:00 oooo bold type. :D 15452 Post 2009-04-27T21:46:26-04:00 581211 13245 2009-04-27T21:46:26-04:00 These artists are bullies I tell ya. 15452 Post 2009-04-27T21:53:32-04:00 581291 3552 2009-04-27T21:53:32-04:00 <blockquote><cite>JoeBaronDesign said:</cite> <img src="http://kingstrike.com/static/designs/97/original/full.jpg" /> $250 for that...Wow...just wow. I think this site is a good idea and definitely think it'll be very helpful to artists out there, but looking at that design is disappointing.</blockquote> <a href="http://www.retoid.com">This</a> is why. Who wouden't want a Bryan Malley design. 15452 Post 2009-04-27T22:53:59-04:00 581971 506 2009-04-27T22:53:59-04:00 Not sure what you're getting at there. Either way, let's drop it. 15452 Post 2009-04-27T23:45:13-04:00 582451 3552 2009-04-27T23:45:13-04:00 <blockquote><cite>kingstrike said:</cite> One more, ladies and gentlemen. <img src="http://kingstrike.com/static/designs/116/original/placement.jpg" width="200"></blockquote> Yesssss! Reilly I wish you great success on this brother, it's really shaping up to be a killer site! 15452 Post 2009-04-27T23:49:30-04:00 582491 11937 2009-04-27T23:49:30-04:00 Thanks! 15452 Post 2009-04-27T23:51:24-04:00 582521 3552 2009-04-27T23:51:24-04:00 This is at the top now? 15452 Post 2009-04-28T03:29:22-04:00 584371 506 2009-04-28T03:29:22-04:00 oh shit it took me forever to figure out what the hell was going on... 15452 Post 2009-04-28T03:44:49-04:00 584461 9543 2009-04-28T03:44:49-04:00 Something wrong, Daniel? 15452 Post 2009-04-28T12:54:38-04:00 588411 3552 2009-04-28T12:54:38-04:00 Tonight's peek peek <img src="http://kingstrike.com/static/designs/122/original/placement.jpg" width="200"><img src="http://kingstrike.com/static/designs/121/original/placement.jpg" width="200"> <img src="http://kingstrike.com/static/designs/120/original/placement.gif" width="200"><img src="http://kingstrike.com/static/designs/119/original/placement.jpg" width="200"> <img src="http://kingstrike.com/static/designs/118/original/placement.jpg" width="200"><img src="http://kingstrike.com/static/designs/117/original/placement.jpg" width="200"> Personally, I'm really digging the animal pattern stuff. 15452 Post 2009-05-05T00:01:35-04:00 663441 3552 2009-05-05T00:02:05-04:00 Personally I think that Frenden's "Howling at the Moon" Tshirt is worth that money, or at least around that mark. But I guess there are some designs on there that are overpriced, still it depends on who the client is, any proper business can and will be used to dealing with more than $400 for a design. 15452 Post 2009-05-05T01:23:18-04:00 664381 13354 2009-05-05T01:23:18-04:00 7 new designs are up now. <a href="http://kingstrike.com">kingstrike.com</a> <img src="http://kingstrike.com/static/designs/135/original/placement.gif" width="200"><img src="http://kingstrike.com/static/designs/127/original/placement.gif" width="200"><img src="http://kingstrike.com/static/designs/134/original/detail.jpg" width="200"><img src="http://kingstrike.com/static/designs/133/original/detail.jpg" width="200"><img src="http://kingstrike.com/static/designs/128/original/placement.gif" width="200"><img src="http://kingstrike.com/static/designs/125/original/placement.gif" width="200"> <img src="http://kingstrike.com/static/designs/126/original/placement.gif" width="200"> 15452 Post 2009-05-20T16:27:20-04:00 860381 3552 2009-05-20T16:29:24-04:00 how does one go about getting a design on kingstrike? 15452 Post 2009-05-20T16:29:57-04:00 860431 1876 2009-05-20T16:29:57-04:00 "For artists, Kingstrike is an opportunity to display new designs to a growing list of apparel companies who are actively looking for great designs. You hand us the art and we do the legwork. At the moment Kingstrike is invite only. If you would like to participate please email a link to your work to invite { at } kingstrike.com " 15452 Post 2009-05-20T16:30:37-04:00 860441 8921 2009-05-20T16:30:44-04:00 bah, i still want in:) 15452 Post 2009-05-20T17:09:55-04:00 861111 3643 2009-05-20T17:09:55-04:00 Ah, it's been awhile since we added some new designs. But that will all change in less than an hour. (8pm pst) <img src="http://kingstrike.com/static/designs/136/original/placement.png" width="200"><img src="http://kingstrike.com/static/designs/137/original/placement.gif" width="200"><img src="http://kingstrike.com/static/designs/138/original/detail.jpg" width="200"><img src="http://kingstrike.com/static/designs/139/original/placement.gif" width="200"><img src="http://kingstrike.com/static/designs/140/original/placement.jpg" width="200"><img src="http://kingstrike.com/static/designs/141/original/placement.jpg" width="200"> 15452 Post 2009-06-10T22:27:58-04:00 1136311 3552 2009-06-10T22:27:58-04:00 AND THEY'RE OFF! 15452 Post 2009-06-10T23:02:59-04:00 1136771 3552 2009-06-10T23:02:59-04:00 haha, love the tooth design 15452 Post 2009-06-10T23:20:51-04:00 1137131 12224 2009-06-10T23:20:51-04:00 I only read the first 50 comments or so, but seriously $400 is not alot to pay for a design. I sold Defunker 2 'rejected' threadless designs 5 years ago for $1000. That's $500 a pop. Anyone with the mentality that no one is going to pay that much for a piece of art really need to change your thier point of view, or get out of the game. 15452 Post 2009-06-12T08:13:40-04:00 1157801 2984 2009-06-12T08:13:40-04:00 Here's some designs that should be printed in the near future. First two will be at shirt.woot but I don't know the exact dates just yet. The others are a new company which I'll reveal when they launch. <a href="http://kingstrike.com/designs/138><img src="http://kingstrike.com/static/designs/138/thumb/full.jpg" /></a> <a href="http://kingstrike.com/designs/132><img src="http://kingstrike.com/static/designs/132/thumb/full.jpg"></a> <a href="http://kingstrike.com/designs/137"><img src="http://kingstrike.com/static/designs/137/thumb/full.jpg"></a> <a href="http://kingstrike.com/designs/124"><img src="http://kingstrike.com/static/designs/124/thumb/full.jpg"></a> <a href="http://kingstrike.com/designs/107"><img src="http://kingstrike.com/static/designs/107/thumb/full.jpg"></a> 15452 Post 2009-07-27T18:41:26-04:00 1770801 3552 2009-07-27T18:43:47-04:00 whoaaaaaaaa awesome. I just uploaded another for you guys, thanks for securing the sale of one of my favorite designs by me. 15452 Post 2009-07-27T19:06:44-04:00 1771091 2991 2009-07-27T19:06:44-04:00 wow! I didn't even know about this site...sweeeet!! 15452 Post 2009-07-27T19:16:27-04:00 1771211 8199 2009-07-27T19:16:27-04:00 Hah, well you might have to wait a bit to learn about it. The site is down at the moment. :( 15452 Post 2009-07-27T19:25:27-04:00 1771381 3552 2009-07-27T19:25:27-04:00 TIME FOR A HARD REBOOT <img src="http://dmui4031.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/reboot.jpg" width="500"> 15452 Post 2009-07-27T19:27:54-04:00 1771411 3552 2009-07-27T19:27:54-04:00 Alright, we're back. <img src="http://www.moviezeal.com/wp-content/uploads/were-back.jpg" /> 15452 Post 2009-07-27T19:28:55-04:00 1771431 3552 2009-07-27T19:28:55-04:00 Coming soon <a href="http://kingstrike.com/designs/140"><img src="http://kingstrike.com/static/designs/140/thumb/full.jpg?1244509930" /></a> 15452 Post 2009-08-06T18:51:03-04:00 1928001 3552 2009-08-06T18:51:03-04:00 I wanna be part of kingstrike :( 15452 Post 2009-08-06T18:54:42-04:00 1928061 12918 2009-08-06T18:54:42-04:00 <a href="http://kingstrike.com/designs/140"><img src="http://kingstrike.com/static/designs/140/original/full.jpg?1244509930" width="415" height="500"> Toothbrush printed at clutchtees.com</a> 15452 Post 2009-08-17T19:26:35-04:00 2058081 3552 2009-08-17T19:26:35-04:00 <blockquote><cite>Pavel Fisher said:</cite> I wanna be part of kingstrike :(</blockquote> me tooo! 15452 Post 2009-08-17T20:45:48-04:00 2058921 11188 2009-08-17T20:45:48-04:00