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  <body>whats everyones feelings on this?

i have some ideas/changes in the works and was looking to see what people thought about companies who change there name and do something new and different.

let me know, cause im thinking about starting a new company and doing everything correctly this time around. cause i think people respect a new company with legit shit then a company whos been around for 3 years, whos made some lame shit in the past and stupid stuff. plus the names lame as hell. haha</body>
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  <title>starting fresh/new</title>
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      <body>as long as your stuff is cool, no one will care about how long you've been around.</body>
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      <body>thats what i did with byeline... except i just left the name and stopped printing ugly ass shit on FOTL BEST 50/50 shirts. what was i thinking?</body>
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      <body>Honestly its a hard call, sometimes its better to start fresh...Thats what Im in the process of doing. I outgrew my name and didnt want to make product for that market though, if you are going to sell to the same crowd that already likes your stuff you may want to just up your game and stick with the name.</body>
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      <body>I agree with you a 100% scappy
AND would like to offer any help you need 4 real.
btw i started that linework and it was lame ha
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Joey said:&lt;/cite&gt; as long as your stuff is cool, no one will care about how long you've been around.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

thats what i kinda figured.

i think im just gonna take like 2-3 monthes and come up with some new shit and be ready for the summer/warped tour.

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;MadeByMAS said:&lt;/cite&gt; Honestly its a hard call, sometimes its better to start fresh...Thats what Im in the process of doing. I outgrew my name and didnt want to make product for that market though, if you are going to sell to the same crowd that already likes your stuff you may want to just up your game and stick with the name.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

the thing is though, ive been uncertain with some stuff with scapula for a while now, so thats why i kinda outgrew the name and wanted to start fresh.

&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;t.rupp said:&lt;/cite&gt; I agree with you a 100% scappy
AND would like to offer any help you need 4 real.
btw i started that linework and it was lame ha&lt;/blockquote&gt;

hahaha you let me know whats good with that linework brah, and thanks =]</body>
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      <body>i think i know where you went wrong...
we werent printing your shirts.
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Cole said:&lt;/cite&gt; i think i know where you went wrong...
we werent printing your shirts.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

oh yeah? i might be hitting you guys up about some stuff. that 4 color process looks real nice. how big can you guys print that? and is 4 color proccess printing on black a no go even with a white later underneath?</body>
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;scapyyy said:&lt;/cite&gt; &lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Cole said:&lt;/cite&gt; i think i know where you went wrong...
we werent printing your shirts.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

oh yeah? i might be hitting you guys up about some stuff. that 4 color process looks real nice. how big can you guys print that? and is 4 color proccess printing on black a no go even with a white later underneath?&lt;/blockquote&gt;

hit me up on aim or email about it. i dont want to jack your thread buddy

aim-coleblotcky86</body>
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      <body>Nah you should hit me up instead, Cole has a weird mustache! </body>
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      <body>fall seven times, get up eight. :D   </body>
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      <body>Cole, I just got the Arctic Junkie tee that you all did for Shifted Image. It is sooooo nice.
Did you print that with regular ink, or discharge?

And Scapy, i think it's really your call, and whatever you feel is the best move for your company. Sometimes starting fresh/new could be a great option, and help you more in the long run. Just weigh the options, pros-cons to see what would be a stronger option.</body>
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;awakendesigncompany said:&lt;/cite&gt; Cole, I just got the Arctic Junkie tee that you all did for Shifted Image. It is sooooo nice.
Did you print that with regular ink, or discharge?

And Scapy, i think it's really your call, and whatever you feel is the best move for your company. Sometimes starting fresh/new could be a great option, and help you more in the long run. Just weigh the options, pros-cons to see what would be a stronger option.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

yeah i mean its been in the back of my mind for a while now, so thats why im debating. i just need to come with a rad name. the hardest part for sure</body>
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;scapyyy said:&lt;/cite&gt; &lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;awakendesigncompany said:&lt;/cite&gt; Cole, I just got the Arctic Junkie tee that you all did for Shifted Image. It is sooooo nice.
Did you print that with regular ink, or discharge?

And Scapy, i think it's really your call, and whatever you feel is the best move for your company. Sometimes starting fresh/new could be a great option, and help you more in the long run. Just weigh the options, pros-cons to see what would be a stronger option.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

yeah i mean its been in the back of my mind for a while now, so thats why im debating. i just need to come with a rad name. the hardest part for sure&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yeah i hear you there. But if you do start something new i'm sure you'll do a lot of things different that will all in all make your brand stronger. Same goes with if you rebrand, and re-work some things with Scapula.</body>
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      <body>shifted image shirts were all plasticol inks. :D</body>
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Cole said:&lt;/cite&gt; shifted image shirts were all plasticol inks. :D&lt;/blockquote&gt;

yeah i was just talking to Marc about em. the print is ridiculously good!! one of the best print jobs i've ever seen, and i've not even washed it yet!

so yeah, back to scapy's thread lol.....</body>
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      <body>Ive said this before and not trying to bring you down at all. But I think doing more band work will help you establish a style and feel youre what 16 now? take that money and buy a car and get some ladies and some vagina, then make shirts.

Not saying what you do sucks, theres just soooooo many people doing this stuff. If you were in fact going to unleash something new, wait until the summer, where you have loads of free time and kids will look for something to spend their summer job money on. 

thats my two cents</body>
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      <body>scappy, dont just be another zombie line. Ill come to new jersey and punch you in the taint.

Seriously though, no more zombie shirts. Don't be another brand that hops on the zombie trend that kyle has on lock.</body>
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      <body>yeah dude its a hard call.  i mean you could start something new and hope that it'll take off.  or you could stick with what you have and just overhaul/improve it.  I mean if you look at companies like GK and Rockett, they've been around for a while, and are just getting huge in the past few years.  Your call, but like others said, just just hop on the zombie bandwagon.  It's starting to get really played out.</body>
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      <body>just hire all the good designers and don't design any of your own stuff like all the other cheese balls! It seems to work!

Oh and Sol, I believe we live in a hour or so radius of eachother. You Amish fuck.</body>
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      <body>hey aren't you the guy who owes that band from california like 700$ for some shirt designs?

i heard you've owed it to them for like over a year...that's a little much for someone who has enough funding to even think about starting a whole new line. :)</body>
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      <body>^^WTF? 

Seems like you've already made your mind up - start afresh and do it when ever you want, if the designs are good then people will buy. There's nothing wrong with out growing your old line :)</body>
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;JoshInvincible said:&lt;/cite&gt;
Oh and Sol, I believe we live in a hour or so radius of eachother. You Amish fuck.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

HA!  no shit, thats awesome.  oh, and i believe you are in fact the Amish fuck, considering you live in Stroudsburg!

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      <body>haha dont wanna jack this thread, hit me up on aim= joshuaonfiya</body>
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;kyleisez said:&lt;/cite&gt; Ive said this before and not trying to bring you down at all. But I think doing more band work will help you establish a style and feel youre what 16 now? take that money and buy a car and get some ladies and some vagina, then make shirts.

Not saying what you do sucks, theres just soooooo many people doing this stuff. If you were in fact going to unleash something new, wait until the summer, where you have loads of free time and kids will look for something to spend their summer job money on. 

thats my two cents&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I second the idea of getting a car and ladies. This is your childhood live it up!</body>
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Jon Kruse said:&lt;/cite&gt; &lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;kyleisez said:&lt;/cite&gt; Ive said this before and not trying to bring you down at all. But I think doing more band work will help you establish a style and feel youre what 16 now? take that money and buy a car and get some ladies and some vagina, then make shirts.

Not saying what you do sucks, theres just soooooo many people doing this stuff. If you were in fact going to unleash something new, wait until the summer, where you have loads of free time and kids will look for something to spend their summer job money on. 

thats my two cents&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I second the idea of getting a car and ladies. This is your childhood live it up!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I also agree!</body>
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      <body>scappy you mah daawg! 
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      <body>Im going about remaking a company, after failing horribly with my project called 'whacked' because i was so naive and lame when i started it im just embarassed mainly of it.

by the way if anyone wants to grab a cheap shirt before they sell out its at www.whackedclothing.bigcartel.com
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      <body>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;cite&gt;kyleisez said:&lt;/cite&gt; Ive said this before and not trying to bring you down at all. But I think doing more band work will help you establish a style and feel youre what 16 now? take that money and buy a car and get some ladies and some vagina, then make shirts.

Not saying what you do sucks, theres just soooooo many people doing this stuff. If you were in fact going to unleash something new, wait until the summer, where you have loads of free time and kids will look for something to spend their summer job money on. 

thats my two cents&lt;/blockquote&gt;

trust me if i do something its gonna be something way different, and more or less of the "skate" aspect of things. like shreding gnarrrr and all that good stuff haha.

but yeah i mean i have enough cash saved up for a car, and trust me the ladies are no problem. 

and if i do, do this, its gonna be a while before anything is unleash. i really wanna find a partner to do this with.</body>
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      <body>im in the same boat as you scappy
i know how stressful and hard it is to try and find a new name and im stuck on 3 different names and themes.
I probably think about it 30 million times a day!
just ask madebymas i bitch to him everyday about it!
LOL</body>
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